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2024 Presidential Election | ELECTION DAY 2024

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I tend to agree with HY, Haley is following the lane for a shot at the ‘28 nomination and isn’t the only one doing this.

Governors Kemp and Sununu (and Youngkin & DeSantis from the MAGA right) are all engaging in a version of the same dance to varying degrees.

Now, if Trump wins this election, I’m not so sure this works as well for the Haley/Sununu side, and TBD how much momentum JD Vance would have, but he will have a lot of money already lined up for the race post Trump second term.

If we have an wipe out of the GOP tonight that the polls are not detecting, then I think the Haley/Sununu lane will be better positioned but likely will have to battle with Never Trump Republicans trying to recapture the party in the image of Reagan. But that seems remote right now, so the never-Trumpers seem stuck in the wilderness until at least the next election cycle.
Agree with you. She’s got a viable path forward if/when Trump loses this upcoming election, but she is understandably trying to shore up some support she may need in 2028 from the Trump base if she ends up head to head against Kamala in the 2028 General.
 
Folks, y'all can stop that right now lmao. Nikki Haley has the least viable path forward in the Republican Party of, like, literally anyone. Name a person. I'll guarantee that that person has a much more viable future in the post-Trump GOP than Nimrata Randahawa. :LOL:
 
You're only saying that because she's a non white woman.
Not at all. I'm saying it because she is an enormous squish. What lane does Nikki Haley fill that will help the GOP recover the scores upon scores of people whom they've lost over the last decade with their surrender to Trumpism?
 
Not at all. I'm saying it because she is an enormous squish. What lane does Nikki Haley fill that will help the GOP recover the scores upon scores of people whom they've lost over the last decade with their surrender to Trumpism?
You're probably right that about that in a general election.
 
Also interesting he can't fill Dorton. Not even trying for Carter Finley or the RBC center
Carter-Finley and the RBC Center have enough trouble filling up to watch the usual losers who play there, can you imagine if they tried to fill it for *this* loser who is liable to deep throat microphones in front of tens of people?
 
Agree with you. She’s got a viable path forward if/when Trump loses this upcoming election, but she is understandably trying to shore up some support she may need in 2028 from the Trump base if she ends up head to head against Kamala in the 2028 General.
I think her main challenge to any future in the party is the fact that she caved. MAGA won't forgive her for challenging dear leader, plus they will actually see her as "weak" for bending the knee to him at the 11th hour. Remember Trump's whole policy of never admit/never apologize seems like strongman behavior to this group. On the other side, never-Trumpers will just remember her as cowardly and craven due to her decision to support/endorse. Now, it is true that political memory is short (exhibit A is Trump on the ballot after Jan 6th), but I just don't think that Nikki recovers from this situation well.
 
Whatever happens, I'm proud of the campaign Harris ran and have no gripes about anything she did or didn't do. I think she did the best she could possibly do given the circumstances. No major gaffes, solid VP pick, strong debate performance, strong online presence, good messaging.

If she loses it's because of forces outside of her control, I can live with that.
Agreed 100%. This isn't at all like Hillary's campaign in 2016. She's run a dynamic, energetic, and high-energy campaign from beginning to end, and she's made very few mistakes along the way, imo. Her debate performance was great, most of her television interviews have been strong, Tim Walz has done great, and she's been doing everything possible in terms of clever, eye-catching ads and has a great grassroots get-out-the-vote drive in key states. If she loses I'm sure people will come out of the woodwork and say that she did this or that wrong, but like you I do believe that she has run a great campaign. It's hard to beat a freaking cult that is supported (at least covertly) by a majority of the news media, and which has a candidate who lies about nearly everything and gets away with it because almost no one in the media fact-checks him or really cares.
 
He is remarkable. And his ability to stay CALM during a debate, and actually lower and soften his voice in the beginning of a response to a challenge is very effective.
Agreed. His manner of responding is very disarming, which fosters a sense of care and respect for whoever he is conversing with. He has a warmth and kindness about him and is sharp as a tack. Dude is a great communicator.
 
Not sure what I am supposed to do here. Fly into NC and lock my parents in a closet so they can't vote? They support bad people and have revealed that at their core they are bad people too. Our relationship is all but permanently broken. I don't see how their being horrible human beings is my fault.
In my case I just realized that I am not changing anyone's mind and I just can't afford to lose most of my extended family.

That rant sounds like a rant from someone who is young and doesn't yet understand these things.
 
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