2025 & 2026 Elections | Blue Wave 2025 results

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Harvard Youth Poll:


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A deep red poll (that has Trump n positive net approval space consistently, often over 50%) but interesting in that context.
 


A deep red poll (that has Trump n positive net approval space consistently, often over 50%) but interesting in that context.

You can't be as awful as Trump, as a person, and win twice unless you're speaking about positions that a significant portion of the country agrees with.
 


A deep red poll (that has Trump n positive net approval space consistently, often over 50%) but interesting in that context.

This just sorts of illustrates the reality that Trump and his policies are not really that popular, especially when people see those policies in action, but if the liberals and leftists can't agree on a platform/candidate that attracts the "traditional republican" voters, they can still lose.
 
You can't be as awful as Trump, as a person, and win twice unless you're speaking about positions that a significant portion of the country agrees with.
Trump won the last election because of angst over immigration and economic dissatisfaction, plain and simple. he may have a gotten a boost from some of his classic culture-war bloviating (i.e., trans issues) but those two issues are really it. The problem is, him winning on those issues had a lot more to do with unhappiness over Democratic leadership and policies than it did with any great belief in how Trump planned to fix it (or really any understanding of how Trump planned to fix it, which he was always characteristically vague about, given that he has no real sense of actual policy). Now that he's president, the reality of his actual policies is more unpopular than what we had under Dems, so it will swing back the other way. This is why Trump is a very effective "outsider" candidate but a terrible candidate as an incumbent.
 
This just sorts of illustrates the reality that Trump and his policies are not really that popular, especially when people see those policies in action, but if the liberals and leftists can't agree on a platform/candidate that attracts the "traditional republican" voters, they can still lose.
It's not like this hasn't been a consistent flaw for Democrats. There is no broad unified platform, except anti-Trump. The large tent model doesn't work well.
You'd think that there would be at least some effort to identify several key issues that all/most can get behind and focus on specific ones in key locations.
 
Trump won the last election because of angst over immigration and economic dissatisfaction, plain and simple. he may have a gotten a boost from some of his classic culture-war bloviating (i.e., trans issues) but those two issues are really it. The problem is, him winning on those issues had a lot more to do with unhappiness over Democratic leadership and policies than it did with any great belief in how Trump planned to fix it (or really any understanding of how Trump planned to fix it, which he was always characteristically vague about, given that he has no real sense of actual policy). Now that he's president, the reality of his actual policies is more unpopular than what we had under Dems, so it will swing back the other way. This is why Trump is a very effective "outsider" candidate but a terrible candidate as an incumbent.
"The problem is, him winning on those issues had a lot more to do with unhappiness over Democratic leadership and policies than it did with any great belief in how Trump planned to fix it"

Yes. 100%.
 
That's the main difference between the parties, imo. The Republicans are the establishment and revel in their commonalities. Even their difference are primarily about method and degree. Their goals are to keep the powerful powerful and make other people behave like they pretend to. That's not what they've always been but now you have the rich and powerful manipulating the fearful and scared.

Democrats are those looking to change things while pragmatic enough to realize that third parties have shit luck in America and probably always will. There's never going to be anything but uneasy coalitions and intraparty squabbles. We have too many true believers who insist we have to make the right changes right now to have a broad unified platform. The majority of us can but, even then, a lot of us think the best we can do is head in the right direction without going overboard. I don't have that sense of certainty that I know what to do that the average Republican seems to.
 

Didn't see that coming😳

Jasmine Crockett is my adopted House rep so part of me loves the idea of her being my adopted Senator but another part of me worries that Texas will not elect a young black woman Senator. Nevertheless, if she runs then I will sign up to be a monthly contributor to her campaign and will keep my fingers crossed that Chuck Schumer will not sabotage her candidacy.

I'm putting on my Jasmine Crockett tee shirt :

" Girl, Baby Girl, Don't Even Play "

The Queen of Smackdowns😛
 
I fear Crockett is far too ostentatious for the senate race. Maybe I am a wrong old white guy but seems to me Texas does not have a bunch of teetering centrist republicans who would vote for Crockett. I think Allred is a good candidate but could not breakthrough once already. I have been most curious about this young preacher man Democrat and thought he would be a potential crossover candidate. Maybe he fails the name game too severely. To be certain if Crockett is running for Senate the oxygen in the room will be spent.
 
I fear Crockett is far too ostentatious for the senate race. Maybe I am a wrong old white guy but seems to me Texas does not have a bunch of teetering centrist republicans who would vote for Crockett. I think Allred is a good candidate but could not breakthrough once already. I have been most curious about this young preacher man Democrat and thought he would be a potential crossover candidate. Maybe he fails the name game too severely. To be certain if Crockett is running for Senate the oxygen in the room will be spent.
Yeah, I'm not sure that seat is in play no matter what happens, but Talarico is the only one I see with any chance to win it.
 
Trump won the last election because of angst over immigration and economic dissatisfaction, plain and simple. he may have a gotten a boost from some of his classic culture-war bloviating (i.e., trans issues) but those two issues are really it. The problem is, him winning on those issues had a lot more to do with unhappiness over Democratic leadership and policies than it did with any great belief in how Trump planned to fix it (or really any understanding of how Trump planned to fix it, which he was always characteristically vague about, given that he has no real sense of actual policy). Now that he's president, the reality of his actual policies is more unpopular than what we had under Dems, so it will swing back the other way. This is why Trump is a very effective "outsider" candidate but a terrible candidate as an incumbent.
That yes. But you can’t dismiss the fact that he ran against a woman of color from California. There are millions who would not vote from any woman (especially a brown one) who would vote for a Dem man.
 
That yes. But you can’t dismiss the fact that he ran against a woman of color from California. There are millions who would not vote from any woman (especially a brown one) who would vote for a Dem man.
Indeed and ditto for Hillary’s failure. It’s an unfortunate reality of the present state of our culture and needs to be accepted by Democratic voters and leadership.

It takes an exceptional candidate like Obame to overcome historical biases.
 
Yeah, I'm not sure that seat is in play no matter what happens, but Talarico is the only one I see with any chance to win it.
I don't see Crockett winning a Senate seat in Texas, she would be better off to stay in the House unless her seat is one of those being gerrymandered to favor Republicans, which it may be, I haven't checked. Even so I don't see Texas voters electing a young, outspoken, very liberal black woman to a Senate seat. That's terrible to have to say, but it's just a political reality in a state like Texas.
 
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