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Wow.

*Everyone realizes this is a second clip of Ball doing virtually the same dirty move out of the same type of frustration to the same exact player, over two years ago… right?

You can litigate the physics of it all you want, but the point remains that this move is something he does when he’s lashing out. And last night it cost Bam an injury and cost the Heat their most important player and experienced leader.
 
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Second game was a crazy one too. Did not see that Portland comeback coming.

Avdija is a beast. He’s so much stronger in the paint than he used to be.
 
You’re a fan of his. I’ve never liked nor disliked him, but now I dislike him. It was a seriously dirty play and when Grayson Allen and Filipowski did shit like that, nobody had a problem calling it what it was.
I mean, I used to think he was kind of a douche in general, but he’s grown on me. Before this season, I thought the Hornets should trade him because I thought he was selfish, unserious, soft, and injury prone. He seems to mature this season and dialed back a lot of the things he used to do on the court that used to annoy me, although he seemed to go back to some of that a little bit last night. But being a dirty player has never been his MO. You can find dirty plays committed by virtually every NBA player. It doesn’t mean they’re all dirty players. Most of the time no one gets hurt when those dirty plays are committed. But you might as not like almost any NBA player.

Last night, in a split second, Melo cupped Bam’s foot as it kicked up and as Melo was pulling his arm back. If Bam fell on his butt and got back up and kept playing, no one would have thought much of it. It’s fine to call it dirty, but certainly doesn’t define who Melo is.
 
I mean, I used to think he was kind of a douche in general, but he’s grown on me. Before this season, I thought the Hornets should trade him because I thought he was selfish, unserious, soft, and injury prone. He seems to mature this season and dialed back a lot of the things he used to do on the court that used to annoy me, although he seemed to go back to some of that a little bit last night. But being a dirty player has never been his MO. You can find dirty plays committed by virtually every NBA player. It doesn’t mean they’re all dirty players. Most of the time no one gets hurt when those dirty plays are committed. But you might as not like almost any NBA player.

Last night, in a split second, Melo cupped Bam’s foot as it kicked up and as Melo was pulling his arm back. If Bam fell on his butt and got back up and kept playing, no one would have thought much of it. It’s fine to call it dirty, but certainly doesn’t define who Melo is.
Nah, you can’t throw a blanket over the entire league and say “they all do it.” That’s highly disingenuous and doesn’t hold a drop of water. Plenty of elbows and jersey grabs and hip checks every which way… but ain’t nobody buying it that everyone does crap like this. Very few do.

I’m a Warriors fan and I’ve had to watch Draymond pulling shit similar to this for a long time, and when I see it, I call it what it is. I’m not saying Ball is Draymond, or especially not a guy like Dillon Brooks who actually tries to hurt people… but he very intentionally swept Bam’s ankle and caused Bam an injury that cost the Heat their most important player and leader. Call it what it is.

Haslem called it a WWE move.
 
My wife saw LaMelo last night for the first time. Commented he might be the ugliest person she's ever seen. And those tats don't help. He's gonna look like roadkill with all that when he's wrinkly at 60.
 
Nah, you can’t throw a blanket over the entire league and say “they all do it.” That’s highly disingenuous and doesn’t hold a drop of water. Plenty of elbows and jersey grabs and hip checks every which way… but ain’t nobody buying it that everyone does crap like this. Very few do.

I’m a Warriors fan and I’ve had to watch Draymond pulling shit similar to this for a long time, and when I see it, I call it what it is. I’m not saying Ball is Draymond, or especially not a guy like Dillon Brooks who actually tries to hurt people… but he very intentionally swept Bam’s ankle and caused Bam an injury that cost the Heat their most important player and leader. Call it what it is.

Haslem called it a WWE move.
I’m fine saying it’s dirty but it doesn’t mean Melo is a POS who needs to face karma. I mean, he might be a POS in general (not necessarily saying he is, but he may be), but not so much as a player.
 
Close first half between the Magic and the 76ers. I’m thinking I’d rather the Hornets face Orlando for the next play in game.
 
Close first half between the Magic and the 76ers. I’m thinking I’d rather the Hornets face Orlando for the next play in game.
Anything can happen in one game but I like the Hornets chances against either one of those. Hornets have been better than either of them for the past couple of months.
 
That was game 82 for Kon - I think he's hit the rookie wall the last few weeks. Kon leads the team in minutes this year.
Been reported that Kon has been having back issues over the last couple of weeks.

Might be the "rookie wall", might be legit he just got hurt, or might be mid-90s K type "back pain"... but my money is he legit tweaked his back (though the length of season for a rookie certainly impacts that)
 
Bullshit that he wasn’t suspended.

Windhorst put it best — he should’ve been suspended but the league went easy on him because, “that’s show business.”
I don’t think anyone gets suspended for that move if they don’t call it on the floor.

Well, it’s a factor if Boehme is not out for the game with a freaking(he didn’t fall that hard), this is not a big deal. The fall did not look crazy.

I think suspended him or not suspended him and finding him are both justified… but people get away with a lot more than that in an NBA game for sure. I could see the rest of that game…. I don’t think that rises to a new game.
 
Bullshit that he wasn’t suspended.

Windhorst put it best — he should’ve been suspended but the league went easy on him because, “that’s show business.”
It actually would have been bullshit if he were suspended as it would have been inconsistent with NBA rules. In order to be suspended for a game based on the commission of flagrant fouls, a player has to accumulate above a certain number of penalty points. Flagrant 1s are assessed 1 point each and flagrant 2s are assessed 2 points each. Game suspensions result if a player accumulates more than 5 penalty points during the regular season or more than 3 in the playoffs. I assume the play-in games are treated as a portion of the playoffs for this purpose. But a single flagrant foul, whether a 1 or 2, will not result in suspension.

I was surprised it didn’t get reviewed after it happened though. The refs clearly weren’t looking in that direction as they missed Bam stepping out of bounds with the ball there and didn’t call it. But had they assessed a flagrant 2 at the time, Ball would have been ejected for the rest of that game. I guess Miami didn’t raise a big fuss about it when it happened. Perhaps they didn’t realize what happened until on later after someone saw some replays. Or perhaps there’s a rule about doing such a review if it is not done immediately after the play. After it occurred, play was not stopped and there were two subsequent possessions before play was stopped. Maybe by rule they couldn’t review it at that point.
 
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It actually would have been bullshit if he were suspended as it would have been inconsistent with NBA rules. In order to be suspended for a game based on the commission of flagrant fouls, a player has to accumulate above a certain number of penalty points. Flagrant 1s are assessed 1 point each and flagrant 2s are assessed 2 points each. Game suspensions result if a player accumulates more than 5 penalty points during the regular season or more than 3 in the playoffs. I assume the play-in games are treated as a portion of the playoffs for this purpose. But a single flagrant foul, whether a 1 or 2, will not result in suspension.

I was surprised it didn’t get reviewed after it happened though. The refs clearly weren’t looking in that direction as they missed Bam stepping out of bounds with the ball there and didn’t call it. But had they assessed a flagrant 2 at the time, Ball would have been ejected for the rest of that game. I guess Miami didn’t raise a big fuss about it when it happened. Perhaps they didn’t realize what happened until on later after someone saw some replays. Or perhaps there’s a rule about doing such a review if it is not done immediately after the play. After it occurred, play was not stopped and there were two subsequent possessions before play was stopped. Maybe by rule they couldn’t review it at that point.
The league office can levy a suspension for unsportsmanlike anytime they want, has nothing to do with points or accumulation or any of that. Especially if they see a history (whatever they deem to be considered history), which the video of Ball doing the same thing to Bam in 2024 was no doubt sitting in front of Silver yesterday, since it was all over ESPN and social media. They were well within policy to suspend him for Friday and plenty of talking heads were calling for it.

And Spo was going nuts at the time. The refs gave some bs about not being able to interrupt the flow since a whistle wasn’t called initially. You got a guy down injured, telling you (as the whole team and Spo are telling you) that he was tripped, and they can’t review it? That was a joke. Bad look for the league on all fronts of this situation and they’re rightly being called out for it.
 
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And apparently LaMelo's dad went after a reporter who called out his son on X, calling the reporter a "clown" iirc. I get that a dad's first instinct is always to defend his son, but I'd hope that behind closed doors he made it a parenting moment to let his kid know that intentionally tripping Bam was an unsportsmanlike and defenseless garbage move and that he better never do something like that again. Sadly, he probably didn't say a damn thing.
 
The league office can levy a suspension for unsportsmanlike anytime they want, has nothing to do with points or accumulation or any of that. Especially if they see a history (whatever they deem to be considered history), which the video of Ball doing the same thing to Bam in 2024 was no doubt sitting in front of Silver yesterday, since it was all over ESPN and social media. They were well within policy to suspend him for Friday and plenty of talking heads were calling for it.

And Spo was going nuts at the time. The refs gave some bs about not being able to interrupt the flow since a whistle wasn’t called initially. You got a guy down injured, telling you (as the whole team and Spo are telling you) that he was tripped, and they can’t review it? That was a joke. Bad look for the league on all fronts of this situation and they’re rightly being called out for it.
You are right that exceptions can be made. It would still be bullshit, however, considering how extremely rare such suspensions are. While I could be wrong, I don’t think anybody NBA player has been suspended for tripping another. Even with Draymond Green’s reputation, he didn’t even get penalized in 2016 for tripping Enes Kanter. (Maybe there as some plausible deniability that it was intentional?) The last two suspensions I’m aware of for a single flagrant foul were in 2022 when Grayson Allen grabbed one of Alex Caruso’s arms while he was going toward the basket for a shot then wound up his other arm and took a hard swing at Caruso’s head (and of course Allen had quite the reputation prior to that), and back in 2014 when Ronnie Price clotheslined Austin Rivers as he went up for a basket. And that last suspension was controversial. Just becuse the outraged angry masses are calling for a suspension, doesn’t mean the NBA should buck precedent and suspend Ball.

Look, it was a dirty play deserving of a flagrant 2 call. While it’s understandable there has been outrage over it, I think the extent of the outrage is a bit much. Obviously the outcome (Bam’s injury that caused him to miss the rest of the game) contributed to that. And perhaps Ball’s unlikability (at least to some) also contributed to that. I do also get theorems more in the line now and fewer games being played (meaning more attention is focused on the games that are played; this same incident likely doesn’t get anywhere near the same level of attention in the middle of the regular season). But the act itself, while dirty, did not strike me as being unconscionably egregious to the point of warranting a special and/or almost unprecedented response from the league.

(But yes, I did see Spoelstra get after the refs about it— I had forgotten about that part— so I guess they believed they couldn’t review it at that point due to subsequent possessions having taken place. Not sure whether there is any rule about that. If not they clearly screwed up there.)
 
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