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superrific said:
I mean, that's a pretty low bar, don't you think? That would put you on par with an average high school student, which is I guess not nothing.
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I honestly don’t know how I’ve made it this far in life without you there by my side to make sure I can do as well as an average high school student.
 
HeelYeah2012 said:
I honestly don’t know how I’ve made it this far in life without you there by my side to make sure I can do as well as an average high school student.
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It's not my fault you post stupidity. I don't judge you the person, because I don't know you the person. I do know HeelYeah2012 and that guy is woefully under-informed and struggles with logic. Just as my board persona does not capture the entirety of my existence, I'm assuming that yours also does not. I don't care about you in real life, because I will never experience you in real life, nor you me.
 
rodoheel said:
I'm happy to revise to "a single person in real life who you believe to be a Hamas supporter." I really doubt it's going to change the answer to my question.
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No, but that doesn't mean they don't exist. Did you watch the news and observe the "demonstrations" on, for example, Colombia's campus, as recently as May when a mob took over the library? Are you wishing this problem away? Mamdani wouldn't denounce "Globalize Intifada" notwithstanding the fact he was given three separate opportunities on Meet the Press. Does that make him a supporter of Hamas? I don't know but I find it significant he won't denounce bringing violent fire bombings of Jews on buses and in cafes to the USA.
 
Ramrouser said:
No, but that doesn't mean they don't exist. Did you watch the news and observe the "demonstrations" on, for example, Colombia's campus, as recently as May when a mob took over the library? Are you wishing this problem away? Mamdani wouldn't denounce "Globalize Intifada" notwithstanding the fact he was given three separate opportunities on Meet the Press. Does that make him a supporter of Hamas? I don't know but I find it significant he won't denounce bringing violent fire bombings of Jews on buses and in cafes to the USA.
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So we'll take that as a resounding 'yes' that you are a child molester since you won't denounce child molestation? Does that make you a supporter of pedophilia? I don't know but I find it significant that you haven't denied having sex with your daughter.
 
Ramrouser said:
No, but that doesn't mean they don't exist. Did you watch the news and observe the "demonstrations" on, for example, Colombia's campus, as recently as May when a mob took over the library? Are you wishing this problem away? Mamdani wouldn't denounce "Globalize Intifada" notwithstanding the fact he was given three separate opportunities on Meet the Press. Does that make him a supporter of Hamas? I don't know but I find it significant he won't denounce bringing violent fire bombings of Jews on buses and in cafes to the USA.
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Colombia? That's a big fucking campus right there.

The reason he wouldn't denounce it is that "globalize intifada" does not mean what you think it means. You right-wingers do this an awful lot. You impute crazy meanings to things and then criticize when other say them.

Still waiting for you to clarify what you meant by Marxist. Oh, you were finished? Then allow me to retort: what country you from?
 
HeelYeah2012 said:
Yeah, it has been hilarious to watch the alignment unfold between the white, liberal LGBTQIA+ community and Hamas, lol. They have so much in common!
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I would invite the Queers for Palestine protestors to take a tour of and vacation in Gaza once it's rebuilt and gage the locals reaction to them.
 
Ramrouser said:
I would invite the Queers for Palestine protestors to take a tour of and vacation in Gaza once it's rebuilt and gage the locals reaction to them.
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Gauge.

They know exactly what those reactions would be. Good Lord, you think you understand LGBTQ oppression better than they do? There's nothing about being gay that implies you should be OK with starvation for even rabidly anti-gay people. Did gay people go out and murder Anita Bryant during her anti-gay political campaigns in the 1970s? They did not. Did a straight conservative POS murder Harvey Milk? Why, yes he did.
 
HeelYeah2012 said:
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You were saying about other people being too dumb? You clearly do not understand what you are talking about. Queers for Palestine exists to counter the impression that you right-wingers have tried to create that somehow liberal anti-genocide activists are homophobic. There is nothing about being gay that compels you to bless human rights violations.

See, the difference here is that queer group understands that there is nuance and complexity in the world, and that we often have to pursue courses of action that are less than ideal because they are better than the alternative. You, apparently, think everything is black and white (except as applied to your own views, which are apparently super nuanced and thoughtful despite all evidence to the contrary). Which is I pegged you for average high school student. It's about that age that people really begin to understand gradations.
 
sringwal said:
Bet is with Ram, only. And I am also not certain that it is a 50/50 odds, so it’s potentially a good bet for him to make.
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Sure, I'll take it. So we're clear: Your bet is that the next Dem Presidential nominee will be a white, Christian, straight male who is an elected official from one of the Confederate States of America + Kentucky and Missouri?
 
superrific said:
The reason he wouldn't denounce it is that "globalize intifada" does not mean what you think it means. You right-wingers do this an awful lot. You impute crazy meanings to things and then criticize when other say them.
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Right wingers? Both the Anti-Defamation League and the American Jewish Committee interpret the slogan as endorsing acts of terrorism and indiscriminate violence against Israelis and Jews worldwide.

 
Ramrouser said:
Right wingers? Both the Anti-Defamation League and the American Jewish Committee interpret the slogan as endorsing acts of terrorism and indiscriminate violence against Israelis and Jews worldwide.
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Dang it. I really hate to do this, because I don’t like painting in such broad brushstrokes, but in addition to believing that you are a child molester (since you support them with your votes), I’ve got no choice but to believe that, since this one single guy who supports your team wore a Camp Auschwitz shirt as he stormed the Capitol in support of your pedo potus, that you too (along with all other Republicans) are pro-Holocaust and anti-Semitic. Trust me, I am truly deeply pained to have to make this sweeping generalization. I hate it so much for the 99.99% of Republicans out there who aren't pro-Holocaust to have to get lumped in with this guy but them's the rules as you laid them out.

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Ramrouser said:
No, but that doesn't mean they don't exist. Did you watch the news and observe the "demonstrations" on, for example, Colombia's campus, as recently as May when a mob took over the library? Are you wishing this problem away? Mamdani wouldn't denounce "Globalize Intifada" notwithstanding the fact he was given three separate opportunities on Meet the Press. Does that make him a supporter of Hamas? I don't know but I find it significant he won't denounce bringing violent fire bombings of Jews on buses and in cafes to the USA.
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I'm not disputing that a few such people exist. But they probably number in the tens of thousands, in a country of hundreds of millions. You are acting like the people living in tents and taking over buildings on Columbia's campus are somehow the "rank and file" of the Democratic Party. It's laughable. There is no real country-wide "problem" with pro-Palestinian radicals, unless you happened to be a college administrator last year. You are simply being manipulated by right-wing media into believing that fringe issues are the most important things our country is dealing with. Just like you thinking that a Sydney Sweeney jeans ad is some great cultural revolution because Fox News et al. won't shut up about it.

But in any event, your fixation on Mamdani (who got something like 40% of the primary vote in a city-wide election) is an avatar of the Democratic Party as a whole is silly. Do you like in NYC? No? So why do you care so much about what a mayoral candidate will or won't denounce when it comes to foreign policy? Meanwhile, Trump won't denounce J6; Trump won't denounce the Proud Boys; Trump won't denounce Putin and the other dictators he sidles up to constantly, etc. These are the things you should concern yourself with, not trying to parse what a few college kids and one mayoral candidate say about Palestine.
 
Ramrouser said:
Right wingers? Both the Anti-Defamation League and the American Jewish Committee interpret the slogan as endorsing acts of terrorism and indiscriminate violence against Israelis and Jews worldwide.
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AJC says:

"“Globalize the Intifada” is a phrase used by pro-Palestinian activists that calls for aggressive resistance against Israel and those who support Israel. The most prominent expressions of intifada have been through violence so this phrase is often understood by those saying and hearing it as encouraging violence against Israelis, Jews, and institutions supporting Israel. While the intent of the person saying this phrase may be different, the impact on the Jewish community remains the same."

The last sentence fully refutes your attempt to infer motive from words. And the whole thing is not very accurate because the First Intifada was mostly peaceful, escalating into violence in response to heavy-handed tactics by the IDF. Palestinian casualties were like 15x the number of Israeli casualties; both the triggering event and the escalating event was murder of Palestinians by Israelis.

To the extent that AJC is asking people to cease using the slogan because it has the potential to incite violence, I'm all for that. I wouldn't use the phrase myself. But it doesn't mean that the decision not to condemn its use is evidence of anything other than a recognition of the symmetry of the conflict, that Israel is as much to blame as Hamas (which is true), and the asymmetry of the tactics used (which is also true).

Do you need any further education?
 
ZenMode said:
But it's probably not. This is 100% how politics works today. You take the views of extreme fringe figures and paint the entire group with that brush.

So, between Bernie, Mamdani and Tlaib, the Right can paint the entire D party as Jew-hating socialist, communists who support Muslim terrorism.
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Would the head of the Republican Party for the past decade be considered an extreme fringe figure?
 
rodoheel said:
I'm not disputing that a few such people exist. But they probably number in the tens of thousands, in a country of hundreds of millions. You are acting like the people living in tents and taking over buildings on Columbia's campus are somehow the "rank and file" of the Democratic Party. It's laughable. There is no real country-wide "problem" with pro-Palestinian radicals, unless you happened to be a college administrator last year. You are simply being manipulated by right-wing media into believing that fringe issues are the most important things our country is dealing with. Just like you thinking that a Sydney Sweeney jeans ad is some great cultural revolution because Fox News et al. won't shut up about it.

But in any event, your fixation on Mamdani (who got something like 40% of the primary vote in a city-wide election) is an avatar of the Democratic Party as a whole is silly. Do you like in NYC? No? So why do you care so much about what a mayoral candidate will or won't denounce when it comes to foreign policy? Meanwhile, Trump won't denounce J6; Trump won't denounce the Proud Boys; Trump won't denounce Putin and the other dictators he sidles up to constantly, etc. These are the things you should concern yourself with, not trying to parse what a few college kids and one mayoral candidate say about Palestine.
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Your points in paragraph 1 are fair and reasonable. I'm not suggesting that the college protestors are representative of "rank and file" Democrats. But I do believe they are the potential future of the Democratic Party and have influence far beyond their numbers.

You're diminishing the importance of the office of the Mayor of NYC. It's a national office in it's scope and influence. Mamdani will be the next Mayor (Adams, Cuomo and Sliwa appear to be staying in) so it's time to start paying attention to him. I don't live in NYC but it's the most important city in the US and I fear for its financial health, and safety, should Mamdani's socialists policies be enacted.

Finally, Sydney Sweeney ad went far beyond just Fox news!
 
Ramrouser said:
Sure, I'll take it. So we're clear: Your bet is that the next Dem Presidential nominee will be a white, Christian, straight male who is an elected official from one of the Confederate States of America + Kentucky and Missouri?
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Sure. Why not. It’s a bet.
 
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