America's Reichstag fire???

It's sorta crazy to me that the people in masks with assault weapons disappearing people into unmarked vehicles are supposed to be the good guys in this scenario.

Like. Is this what they want?
If the folks with masks and guns are hurting the people they hate, conservatives have always been for such actions.

Conservatives aren't against "big government" or authoritarianism or a police state, they're only against the idea that they wouldn't control it.
 
I'm glad that Newsom is fighting fire with fire, so to speak. His social media presence was sorely needed by dems. We need more pushback.
Somewhat agree. It could completely blow up in his face and accelerate the pace towards autocracy. That said, I’m not sure Gavin Newsom in handcuffs is a bad acceleration. Autocracy in increments is more insidious and gets normalized. Accelerated autocracy often gets violent, but it’s also very obvious and clearly not “normal”.
 


Sheinbaum:


Mexican President Sheinbaum condemns violence in LA protests​



“Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum condemned the use of violence in immigration protests in Los Angeles, as she urged the Mexican community abroad to remain peaceful.

“We do not agree with violent actions as a form of protest. Burning police cars appears to be more an act of provocation than of resistance. We condemn violence, no matter where it comes from,” Sheinbaum said in a prepared statement at her daily news briefing on Monday.

“We call on the Mexican community to act pacifically and not allow itself to be provoked,” she added.

But the Mexican president made clear that her government has an “unwavering commitment to the protection and defense of the human rights of Mexicans, regardless of their immigration status” — and called for due process in U.S. immigration proceedings.

“In this sense, we make a respectful but firm call to United States authorities for all immigration procedures to be carried out with adherence to due process, within a framework of respect for human dignity and the rule of law,” Sheinbaum said in her statement….”
 


Sheinbaum:


Mexican President Sheinbaum condemns violence in LA protests​



“Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum condemned the use of violence in immigration protests in Los Angeles, as she urged the Mexican community abroad to remain peaceful.

“We do not agree with violent actions as a form of protest. Burning police cars appears to be more an act of provocation than of resistance. We condemn violence, no matter where it comes from,” Sheinbaum said in a prepared statement at her daily news briefing on Monday.

“We call on the Mexican community to act pacifically and not allow itself to be provoked,” she added.

But the Mexican president made clear that her government has an “unwavering commitment to the protection and defense of the human rights of Mexicans, regardless of their immigration status” — and called for due process in U.S. immigration proceedings.

“In this sense, we make a respectful but firm call to United States authorities for all immigration procedures to be carried out with adherence to due process, within a framework of respect for human dignity and the rule of law,” Sheinbaum said in her statement….”

Trump’s DHS Secretary Kristi Noem Accuses Mexico’s President of Inciting LA Protests From Oval Office: ‘I Condemn Her’​



“…“Claudia Sheinbaum came out and encouraged more protests in LA, and I condemn her for that,” Noem said. “She should not be encouraging violent protests that are going on.”…”
 


At some point, we have to ask ourselves if he is merely lying or genuinely insane.

I go back and forth on this but right now, I don’t think he’s insane. Or at least, I think he’s fully aware he’s lying. I think he’s realized he can create a reality that will be believed by a majority of Americans, regardless of how absurd it might seem to those of us who live in the real world. He just repeats that false reality over and over, and with remarkable consistency, until it becomes canon within the GOP.
 
As bad as this may seem, can you imagine how bad it would be if presidents were required to follow the law or face consequences? It's very good that there will be no cycles of revenge prosecutions because the president can't break the law.
 
I go back and forth on this but right now, I don’t think he’s insane. Or at least, I think he’s fully aware he’s lying. I think he’s realized he can create a reality that will be believed by a majority of Americans, regardless of how absurd it might seem to those of us who live in the real world. He just repeats that false reality over and over, and with remarkable consistency, until it becomes canon within the GOP.
Majority?
 
Majority?
Maybe not, but I worry a huge percentage of the apolitical assume Trump is telling something resembling the truth because they’re not plugged in enough to know better. Add them to the 40% of Americans who are plugged in but are gullible enough to trust Trump and it could potentially be a majority.
 
If they were protesting in favor of Trump he wouldn't give a damn. We saw that on Jan 6. I hope the military turns on his fat fascist ass.
 
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