Approval/Disapproval Polls

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Lando said:
So the 2024 message is bad, but moving to the right or the left is also bad.
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What policy positions should the Democrats have changed in 2024 or should they change in 2026 or 2028 to improve their election results?
Will a policy change on Israel/Gaza improve their chances of winning?
While I support Israel, or any country, in defending themselves, I adamantly oppose what Israel has done and is doing in Gaza. If that's going to move the needle to win the House and Senate in 2026, then I'm all in. If not, let's focus on the issues that can win.
 
BillOfRights said:
Yeah, I get it. I thought the convention was really good. I really like Harris. I took days off work and drove from out of state to NC to knock on doors for Harris and the entire Democratic ticket.

The message in 2024 wasn't enough. I have a hard time believing that focusing on issues to the left of Democratic incumbents is the best way to implement those policies.
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Trump drove turnout to the right. Kamala didn't draw turnout from the left to counter it. The campaign banked on never-Trumpers and moderates and there just aren't enough to overcome Trump's populism.

Next candidate should have an easier task of drawing moderates and not facing a right wing populist cult, assuming there is an election and Trump doesn't flip off the Constitution and run again.
 
Kingpin said:
They ran an incumbent (Covid supply chain inflation) woman of color. If Dems had run Andy Bashear or some other non-incumbent man, they would have won. The 81 million who voted for Biden didn’t show of for either Hillary or Kamala. Trump can only beat a woman.
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It’s impossible to prove the counter factual one way or the other. But I think 2022 inflation coupled with Biden’s delay made 2024 toxic for any candidate.
 
Calheel said:
It’s impossible to prove the counter factual one way or the other. But I think 2022 inflation coupled with Biden’s delay made 2024 toxic for any candidate.
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Especially for one who didn't run the gauntlet of primaries in which to build party support
 
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BillOfRights said:
Do you think appealing a lot to a few people while making a lot of people mad will be better?
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I don't think you do make a lot of people mad by taking the upper road approach to issues. The government of Israel is horrible. Full stop. People who shout things like "from the river to the sea" are equally awful. Full stop. Our goal should be to eradicate the positions of both the Israeli government AND those who target Israeli civilians.

That means cutting Israel off as an International pariah until the people of Israel use their Democracy to elect a government that isn't based in the foundational belief of eradicating Palestinians.

The people who mostly will be incensed by those statements will never vote for Democrats. The people who will appreciate the honesty will carry the day.
 
BillOfRights said:
What policy positions should the Democrats have changed in 2024 or should they change in 2026 or 2028 to improve their election results?
Will a policy change on Israel/Gaza improve their chances of winning?
While I support Israel, or any country, in defending themselves, I adamantly oppose what Israel has done and is doing in Gaza. If that's going to move the needle to win the House and Senate in 2026, then I'm all in. If not, let's focus on the issues that can win.
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I think that third way style triangulation is no longer effective and in this current moment only succeeds in alienating people.

Democrats rarely spoke about trans issues. Republicans campaigned heavily on them. Would it be fair to look at the two campaigns and conclude that Republicans hate trans people while Democrats don't really care?
 
BillOfRights said:
If he feels threatened, he is likely to become more combative and more emboldened to challenge his constraints. I don't think he plans to leave office, so I don't think he will think and act like a lame duck, and Republicans (I use that term loosely) will do whatever he wants.
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He’s already grown weaker.
 
Geisterfahrer said:
They lost on trans rights. They absolutely hammered that one ad across America. Dems didn’t really run on trans rights but it was at least a factor in the loss. I agree it was mostly inflation though and some vestigial memory of Trump as a competent businessperson.
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Agree - it wasn’t just inflation. The Trans ad was devastating.

In many ways it was the “hands” ad from 1990 all over again.

Devastatingly effective.

That said, inflation, inflation, inflation.
 
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