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Biden pardons | BIDEN ISSUES PREEMPTIVE PARDONS - Family, Fauci, J6 Committee, Others

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hedge said:
Would not be surprised if Trump tries to reverse these commutations when he gets in office. Don't know if that's possible but with this Supreme Court, anything seems possible...
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WaynetheDrain said:
It’s not madness. It’s humane. Biden is against the death penalty. Note that I said Biden is against the death penalty, not against judicial punishment and the rule of law.

These people pose no greater threat to the public now than they did when they were sitting on death row.

Personally, I think he didn’t go far enough. I think he should have pardoned all 37 people, commuting their sentences entirely, and thrown them on two buses: One to Ron DeSantis’ house and one to Jim Abott’s house. Just to replace the workers both states lost bussing asylum seekers to sanctuary states.
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That was very effective of abott and desantis wasn't it?
 
I've been a Biden supporter for a long time, but these commutations disgust me. I knew a girl, in WNC, who was simply out on a run off the parkway. She came upon a monster. He used a stun gun on her, duck taped here to a tree, repeatedly raped her and then shot her in the head. He confessed and has been on Death Row in Raleigh since. I understand that commenting his sentence from death to life without parole doesn't let him out, but I remain disgusted with Biden now. Sad.
 
hedge said:
Would not be surprised if Trump tries to reverse these commutations when he gets in office. Don't know if that's possible but with this Supreme Court, anything seems possible...
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It’s not possible. He can’t do anything about it.
 
superrific said:
i understand dean's position. ive met lots of people who say they are morally opposed to the death penalty in all situations. its easy to say. its another thing to have a commutation paper in front of you for a guy who shot up a church because he hates black people, or a synagogue because he hates jews -- and sign it.
i strongly believe that people like to think of themselves as braver than they are. if you haven't been tested, you don't know what you would do. I would think that, had I been at my lai, i would have tried to do something to stop it. but i dont know that. and while its possible that everyone there was a sadistic murderer, i think its more likely that some of the soldiers knew it was wrong but didn't have the guts to speak out. that sounds insulting, right? it just shows how much we live in our own armchair qb minds. it would have taken a lot of guts to try to stop my lai. are you sure you have that level of guts?

are you sure dean would have the guts to commute the sentence of a terrorist? are you sure he wouldn't sign 37 of the 40 and call it a good job?
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I am not sure what I would do at My Lai, but I am 100% sure what Dean would have done on those commutations. Considering how long he spent in the increasingly shady world of college revenue sports, I doubt there has ever been a single person who stepped foot in Chapel Hill that was more committed to walking the walk. Dean was never afraid to do what he believed was right even if he thought it would get him flack (or even if it was not in fact right, like talking to a Clemson player during the game about his rough play). Dean would not have thought twice about commuting the death sentence of the most odious killer imaginable.
 
Calheel said:
I am not sure what I would do at My Lai, but I am 100% sure what Dean would have done on those commutations. Considering how long he spent in the increasingly shady world of college revenue sports, I doubt there has ever been a single person who stepped foot in Chapel Hill that was more committed to walking the walk. Dean was never afraid to do what he believed was right even if he thought it would get him flack (or even if it was not in fact right, like talking to a Clemson player during the game about his rough play). Dean would not have thought twice about commuting the death sentence of the most odious killer imaginable.
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My take to that is that I am glad he was a basketball coach and not a judge or politician.
 
Calheel said:
I am not sure what I would do at My Lai, but I am 100% sure what Dean would have done on those commutations. Considering how long he spent in the increasingly shady world of college revenue sports, I doubt there has ever been a single person who stepped foot in Chapel Hill that was more committed to walking the walk. Dean was never afraid to do what he believed was right even if he thought it would get him flack (or even if it was not in fact right, like talking to a Clemson player during the game about his rough play). Dean would not have thought twice about commuting the death sentence of the most odious killer imaginable.
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Everyone seems to know what Dean would have done about this. What would Dean say about abortion? Just curiosity wondering.
 

Dean Smith was a drum major for justice​

BY PATRICK O’NEILL
FEBRUARY 15, 2015

There is a lot in this piece about Coach Smith and the death penalty. Years ago I knew author, Patrick O’Neil, through political action groups. But he was also a good sportswriter. As the byline reveals, he left journalism to start a Catholic Worker House.
 
Yosef said:
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That's a misrepresentation of Exodus.

More importantly, in Leviticus ,a book of law involving no poetic imagery(After all, we know that fog doesn't travel on cat's feet), God told Moses not to count a child as a member of the tribe of Israel until he was a month old. That is (if you believe in the literal truth of the Bible) God talking to Moses and not someone's interpretation or sense of poesy.

Also read Numbers 5 and see in the test for an unfaithful wife isn't a description of an abortion conducted by the priests in the Temple.
 
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