Biorhythms for Carolina @Virginia: Post-Game Discussion

[Patb78]

Coach Smith was so good, so very good.

Yes. And in many more ways than one.

 

[Bigs23]

Damn - that’s astronomical.

Yep, dook is effing loaded...again.

 

[heel79]

Isaiah Evans, a top 2024 recruit and current Duke freshman, was ranked as a consensus five-star player nationally (around #8 by ESPN, #10 by 247Sports) and the #1 player in North Carolina by ESPN

Patrick Ngongba II is a 6'11" sophomore center for the Duke Blue Devils, entering the 2026 NBA Draft conversation as a potential first-round pick. Formerly a five-star recruit (No. 19 overall, 247Sports) in the 2024 class, he has shown elite efficiency and defensive potential as a high-level big man.

Dame Sarr, a 6-foot-7 (or 6'8") elite international guard/forward from Italy, is a 5-star prospectin the 2025 recruiting class, ranked as high as No. 17 overall in the final On3 150 rankings.

Caleb Foster was a highly-rated five-star point guard in the 2023 recruiting class, ranking as the No. 13-24 prospect nationally.

Darren Harris was a consensus four-star, top-60 shooting guard prospect in the 2024 class from Paul VI Catholic in Virginia who committed to Duke. Ranked around No. 31–56 nationally(No. 45 by ESPN, No. 56 by 247Sports), he was the 2023-24 Gatorade Virginia Player of the Year, known as an elite shooter and 2024 state champion.

No one thinks UNC's talent is comparable to duke's. Silly case to make. Just say scheyer is better recruiter and has bigger bank. Well maybe there is one person on the talent thing.

 

[donbosco]

Yep, dook is effing loaded...again.

And once again A-Eye sux

 

[donbosco]

No one thinks UNC's talent is comparable to duke's. Silly case to make. Just say scheyer is better recruiter and has bigger bank. Well maybe there is one person on the talent thing.

O was the one who very clumsily tried to make a valuation - shouldn’t have used dook because I wasn’t trying to compare so much as test the rating of our players versus those of other teams.

But that AI stuff was garbage. Maybe 247 Composite is also garbage.

 

[heel79]

O was the one who very clumsily tried to make a valuation - shouldn’t have used dook because I wasn’t trying to compare so much as test the rating of our players versus those of other teams.

But that AI stuff was garbage. Maybe 247 Composite is also garbage.

I was not talking about you. But thanks.

 

[SnoopRob]

I know that was Dean’s plan when he did it, but I’m not sure that was the general plan as of several months or more before that. I don’t know what was always in Dean’s head, but I think the general understanding among those within/close to the program was that Roy would be the successor when Dean retired.

I don't claim insider status because I know I'm not. But back in the day I had one good connection who would occasionally give me information that was as good as you could get. I know where his info came from and I couldn't have had a better source (when I could get him to talk).

The last few years of Dean's career, he was pretty burned out by the end of each season. He'd slow down a bit in the summers (except for recruiting, of course) and by the time school was starting again he'd get his fire back. But those experiences were what led to his statement about knowing it was time to step down when he just wasn't able to do that in 1997.

The plan had always been for Coach Gut to get a chance to be the HC, but it was expected that he'd only be in the role for 1 year. And then Roy would come back to CH from Kansas to take over the program in a permanent role. But Coach Gut threw that plan into disarray by staying for 3 years, which upset Roy and led him to promise his recruits in the HS class of '99 that he'd be there for all 4 years of their college career (as the rumor was well-known by then that Roy was believed to be returning to CH whenever Coach Gut retired). When Coach Gut did retire after the 2000 season, there was a lot of hope and/or expectation in CH that Roy would return, but it wasn't the slam dunk that it would have been had Coach Gut stepped down in 1998.

And while not quite germane to Dean's plan of handing the program off to Coach Gut before transitioning to Roy, Roy really did think that when he turned down Dean and Carolina in 2000 that he'd closed the door on his chance to return. He assumed that whomever Carolina hired next would be here for a good while and he initially believed he had burned the bridge that would allow him to ever have the job. Of course, by the time the job was open again in 2003 he knew that he was still loved in CH and that Dean and the program would gladly have him return.