College Football Catch-All Thread

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dukeman92 said:
The entire structure of the sport is fucked.

Coaches should not feel forced to abandon their teams before the season is over.

These NIL deals need to have caveats for the postseason. Half the players on these teams abandon ship before any games are even played. So they’re not an accurate representation of season-long success.

The portal shouldn’t open until after the season has concluded. Why is this so hard for them to figure out?

We should contract some bowl games. There can be meaningful, tradition rich games outside of the playoff.

Rose
Sugar
Orange
Fiesta
Gator
Sun
Peach
Citrus
Cotton
Holiday

That gives you twenty bowl teams and 16 playoff teams. Make the postseason exclusive again and stop watering it down with participation trophies.
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I’m not sure what the solution is (or if there even is one) but the timing for hiring coaches really is screwed up.

Ole Miss just had their best season in history and now they won’t have the coach that built the team in the first place for the playoff run. Oregon has a shot at winning their first ever national title, and they’ll be trying to do it while both coordinators have one foot at the door. It’s nice that Sumrall and Chesney get to coach Tulane and JMU for their playoff games, but it’s still a bit of a bummer that their imminent coaching changes will be kinda hanging over those games.
 
Peppers49 said:
I’m not sure what the solution is (or if there even is one) but the timing for hiring coaches really is screwed up.

Ole Miss just had their best season in history and now they won’t have the coach that built the team in the first place for the playoff run. Oregon has a shot at winning their first ever national title, and they’ll be trying to do it while both coordinators have one foot at the door. It’s nice that Sumrall and Chesney get to coach Tulane and JMU for their playoff games, but it’s still a bit of a bummer that their imminent coaching changes will be kinda hanging over those games.
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I agree it does suck but it's really always been that way. The coach's hiring season and the recruiting and the bowl games are all in the same time frame. That doesn't mean the NCAA shouldn't improve it because they should but I don't think it's all that different now than what it's been forever.
 
ACC has bent over for many years to accommodate Notre Dame. I think ACC officials finally got fed up and totally intended to do permanent damage. Pretty sure ACC officials figured if they played the game the way ND wanted, then ND would have fully joined the conference by now. Did not happen. Not even close. Time to end the ACC affiliation with ND and let the Irish chips fall where they may.
 
Pete Bevacqua can get fucked.

The ACC did Notre Dame a HUGE favor during the COVID-19 pandemic's chaotic 2020 season by allowing the football program to play a full 10-game conference schedule and become eligible for the ACC Championship Game and College Football Playoff, a unique opportunity driven by scheduling uncertainties and revenue sharing.
 
IllegalMotion9999 said:
ACC has bent over for many years to accommodate Notre Dame. I think ACC officials finally got fed up and totally intended to do permanent damage. Pretty sure ACC officials figured if they played the game the way ND wanted, then ND would have fully joined the conference by now. Did not happen. Not even close. Time to end the ACC affiliation with ND and let the Irish chips fall where they may.
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They need the ACC more than the other way around.
 
dukeman92 said:
They need the ACC more than the other way around.
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My recollection is that the B1G offered ND the opportunity to become a full member as they were expanding. ND said the B1G could have all of its sports except football. The B1G told ND to pound sand. Time for the ACC to do the same. The days of an independent putting together a schedule in sports other than football are long gone. Good riddance.
 
I’m not defending ND in any way here, but for some context I used to work with a lot of ND grads at a previous job and they were all extremely sensitive and protective about their status as a football independent. It’s such a deeply rooted part of their tradition that I really can’t see them changing that over one perceived postseason snub. They’ll probably just bitch and moan about it for awhile and then quietly keep riding the ACC arrangement for as long as possible.

If any changes do happen it’ll probably be to ND’s benefits anyway, like safeguarding against 2 G5 schools making it in again by requiring a new minimum CFP ranking or something.
 
Peppers49 said:
I’m not defending ND in any way here, but for some context I used to work with a lot of ND grads at a previous job and they were all extremely sensitive and protective about their status as a football independent. It’s such a deeply rooted part of their tradition that I really can’t see them changing that over one perceived postseason snub. They’ll probably just bitch and moan about it for awhile and then quietly keep riding the ACC arrangement for as long as possible.

If any changes do happen it’ll probably be to ND’s benefits anyway, like safeguarding against 2 G5 schools making it in again by requiring a new minimum CFP ranking or something.
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Let them stay independent. IDGAF. But don't make concessions for them. Fuck 'em.
 

After years bending to Notre Dame’s whims, the ACC finally got the better of it​

After watching Notre Dame use the ACC for its own purposes all these years without remorse — taking advantage of the league during COVID, pushing to add Stanford for its own selfish reasons, and so on — the Irish finally got their comeuppance.
The ACC sneaking a representative into the College Football Playoff through a back door at Notre Dame’s expense when the committee reshuffled things for no apparent objective reason is the funniest possible outcome to the league’s nightmare scenario that arose when Duke beat Virginia for the ACC title on Saturday night and raised the possibility of the ACC being left out entirely.
Naturally, when Notre Dame threw all of its toys out of its stroller Sunday and said it would rather not play in a bowl after all, thank you very much, that required the ACC to restart its bowl process and delayed the eventual announcements by several hours. When the Irish have a cold, the ACC still has to wipe its nose.
Still, the not-so-hidden implication that Notre Dame would have been in the 12-team field instead of Miami if it were a full ACC member (like it was during the COVID season) is nothing short of riotous. It’s even more amusing than ACC commissioner Jim Phillips’ defense of the league’s relationship with Notre Dame this fall, when he said “They’re all in, with the asterisk of football.”
Mighty big asterisk you’ve got there. Would be a real shame if anything happened to it.
 
Notre Dame's feelings are hurt and they are entitled to a couple of days to vent. But anyone with any sense realizes that:
1. the ACC is always going to lobby for its members over its nonmembers.
2. the ACC lobbying made 0.0% difference to the final decision.
 
I'm sure it's not awesome for Notre Dame to miss out on the playoffs but I still don't understand why they would forgo the bowl experience for their kids and especially the extra practice time that you get with bowls. How can you go to a recruit and tell them that if they don't make the playoffs that they aren't going to play in a bowl? How can they go to their team and tell them that they don't get that bowl experience this year? Seems like they are cutting off their nose to spite the ACC's face. It could also be a way to say to the TV people that if they don't use their leverage to get Notre Dame into the playoffs in future years, you're not going to have the Notre Dame audience for your ratings.
 
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