I know it's small comfort after our bowl game, but at least State lost their bowl game today to ECU in embarrassing fashion, and State players started yet another brawl at the end of the game. And CrackRide already has a multipage "Fire Dave Doeren" thread going, in which posters amusingly keep saying they can't understand why he still has a job, while they ignore the simple fact that he still has a job because he's beaten UNC regularly over the past several years - their Superbowl. Hopefully Belicheck will start changing that next year, after which Doeren's job security will no doubt plummet accordingly.