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Musk tries to claim a victory — even though Trump did not get the only thing he wanted (debt ceiling relief).
 
Callatoroy said:
You might be cf's twin brother.

So evil billionaire who is leading the way away from fossil fuels, supports free speech so much that he bought a social media platform because it was guilty of censorship, and wants to eliminate wasteful g'ment spending. Damn, he needs to be shot. Face it, you are just angry because he supports all the things you, as a liberal are supposed to support, but secretly don't unless it agrees with your pov.
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Musk, leading the way away from fossil fuels? By supporting 'drill-baby-drill' Trump and supporting the AfD in Germany?
 
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UNCatTech said:
Neither party has been fiscally responsible in 50 years. The one party that came close was the dems.

Musk and trump don't care about government spending, they just want to figure out how to ensure that the government makes their net worth increase.
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U.S. Presidents' Net Worth, Before and After Taking Office

Presidents have immense power, but that hasn’t always meant great wealth. You may be shocked at the exceptions to modern office-holders who know how to turn a buck.
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The last time there was a balanced budget congress was controlled by pubs. They forced bill to play ball.
That doesn't seem to apply to trump and elon has enough that he good. But getting rich does apply to some presidents.
 
UNCatTech said:
Were you not in support of government overpaying to stay at trump properties? Is that not pork, or is that how you like your pork?

Pork isn't the biggest issue in this country.
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The US could cut 100% of pork spending and that’ll amount to a hill of beans in comparison to the deficit.

Pretty certain we could cut 100% of “discretionary” spending and we’d still run a deficit.

“Discretionary” spending includes CDC, FAA, NIH, FBI, DEA, ATF, CIA, NSA, NOAA, NASA, FDA, TSA, Smithsonian, NPS, etc.
 
Callatoroy said:
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U.S. Presidents' Net Worth, Before and After Taking Office

Presidents have immense power, but that hasn’t always meant great wealth. You may be shocked at the exceptions to modern office-holders who know how to turn a buck.
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The last time there was a balanced budget congress was controlled by pubs. They forced bill to play ball.
That doesn't seem to apply to trump and elon has enough that he good. But getting rich does apply to some presidents.
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I assumme the pubs will cut some stuff-on the edges. And cut taxes a bit more. The net-Net will be More debt A good bit more
I don't worry about that so much-compared to the shit show in foreign policy
 
lawtig02 said:
If the bill is not available, how do you know the pork was cut?
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If you and I are going to converse in good faith then you need to cut the bs lawyer act. I have tried to answer you in good faith. It's kind of hard to cram 1500 pages of spending into 115 pages so I'm relying on common sense and the fact that much of what was objected to wouldn't still be there if it was passed. Hoping you can be objective enough to give credit where credit is due and not be so partisan that all judgement is out the window. I'm not claiming that now but in light of how the events have unfolded and the damning comments made by johnson, I still don't understand how you see this as a bad thing.
 
Callatoroy said:
If you and I are going to converse in good faith then you need to cut the bs lawyer act. I have tried to answer you in good faith. It's kind of hard to cram 1500 pages of spending into 115 pages so I'm relying on common sense and the fact that much of what was objected to wouldn't still be there if it was passed. Hoping you can be objective enough to give credit where credit is due and not be so partisan that all judgement is out the window. I'm not claiming that now but in light of how the events have unfolded and the damning comments made by johnson, I still don't understand how you see this as a bad thing.
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he is an attorney. what is the bs lawyer act?

here's an idea. instead of telling others to be worse, why dont you raise your game?

you cant say there were cuts to spending relative to a proposed bill. that makes no sense. it is not a win any form.

cutting spending to make room for huge rich people tax cuts is not a win for anyone except the ultrarich
 
Some of the pork cut is childhood cancer research funding



 


Political malpractice. Can’t figure out how this got started - who thought this would work? Why burn political capital like this?
 
This ain’t looking good for your team, calla. Just a huge embarrassment politically for no fiscal benefit, and most of the things that were cut are overwhelmingly popular among both Dems and Pubs. This disaster will probably be forgotten after the many other disasters to come, but we can mark it down as major unforced error #1 for Trump/Musk 2.0.
 
Callatoroy said:
www.aol.com

U.S. Presidents' Net Worth, Before and After Taking Office

Presidents have immense power, but that hasn’t always meant great wealth. You may be shocked at the exceptions to modern office-holders who know how to turn a buck.
www.aol.com www.aol.com

The last time there was a balanced budget congress was controlled by pubs. They forced bill to play ball.
That doesn't seem to apply to trump and elon has enough that he good. But getting rich does apply to some presidents.
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All presidents pretty much gain wealth after being president.

It's interesting that's the first I've read that trump lost money, amazing for such a great business man.

Of course one has to ask where the money went, or if he was truly worth $5B when he went into office, there were questions about his actual worth. What did his tax records show? I forget, did we ever get to see them? Wait, we did? Didn't we. They showed that he had billions in losses to report and didn't really pay the taxes he should have, didn't they? Or am I mis-remembering?

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Decade in the Red: Trump Tax Figures Show Over $1 Billion in Business Losses (Published 2019)

Newly obtained tax information reveals that from 1985 to 1994, Donald J. Trump’s businesses were in far bleaker condition than was previously known.
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But I've read so many other articles about the amount of money that trump made, you know by forcing government planes and members to use trump properties at a greater cost than the properties they would have normally used. Now, I know that AOL has to be a standard in reporting, but I've found a few other articles about trump that really don't align.

I'm sure you are perfectly ok with all of these. You being against pork and government overspend, I'm sure you want the government to get the most from their travel budget. If you want to read more it was an easy google search. It's amazing how many hits one gets when they google "Trump" & "Crook".

www.propublica.org

We’ve Found $16.1 Million in Political and Taxpayer Spending at Trump Properties

Most came from political entities such as the Trump campaign, but government agencies chipped in, too. “I could offer clarity,” one federal employee explained, “but I choose not to.”
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www.opensecrets.org

All the President's Profiting

Trump and his family are in position to profit directly from his public service. Track payments to Trump properties from Trump-related entities and beyond.
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americanoversight.org

Defense Department Spent Nearly $1 Million at Trump Properties from July 2017 to November 2019, Records Obtained by American Oversight Reveal - American Oversight

Records obtained by American Oversight show that the Pentagon spent at least $974,000 at Trump-owned properties between July 2017 and November 2019, far exceeding previously reported expense totals.
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Tracking Taxpayer Spending at Trump Properties - American Oversight

Even as Trump’s presidency sunsets, it’s still hard to tell how much money went from public coffers into his pockets.
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www.citizensforethics.org

150 foreign government officials have paid visits to Trump properties - CREW | Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington

The staggering number of foreign officials who have paid a visit to Trump properties shows clearly that the Trump presidency is for sale.
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President Trump’s 3,400 conflicts of interest - CREW | Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington

As of September 21, President Trump has racked up 3,403 conflicts of interest. The list reads like an instruction manual for how not to drain the swamp.
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Oversight Democrats’ New Report Proves Trump Used His D.C. Hotel to Take Unconstitutional Domestic Emoluments, Fleecing the Taxpayers

Washington, D.C. (October 18, 2024)—Today, Rep. Jamie Raskin, Ranking Member of the Committee on Oversight and Accountability, released a new staff report revealing how, while he was in office, Donald Trump used the Trump International Hotel in Washington, D.C. to unlawfully take hundreds of...
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