lawtig02
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This is getting worse and worse for your leadership, calla.
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This is getting worse and worse for your leadership, calla.
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I don't get the primary threat. During the 2022 mid-terms, Trump-backed candidates in competitive races didn't perform all that great. His record was 46 wins & 33 losses. And 32 of the 33 who lost were also election deniers. They lost efforts to flip senate seats in the battleground states of Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona & Nevada. And lost ten governors races.
I'm just not convinced that not having his support is the death knell he thinks it is. And Actually it could be good for democrats. If pubs actually sack up to him, resulting in being primaried, experienced competent dems could wind up running races against incompetent nut jobs like Mark Robinson.
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“… The U.S. farm sector finds itself in another rough patch. Net farm income declined 4% this year to $141 billion after falling about 20% last year, according to the Agriculture Department. Weaker prices for commodities such as soybeans and wheat have weighed on farmers’ earnings after growers in the U.S. and elsewhere reared big crops, swelling supplies. Their costs for essentials such as fertilizer and equipment are also higher.
… President-elect Donald Trump has also pledged tariffs on Mexico and China, key importers of U.S. crops, and Canada, a major fertilizer producer. Government policies that subsidize biofuel production, which can boost crop prices for farmers, could also be in flux under the new administration, analysts and company executives said.
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Financial pain on the farm comes after one of the ag industry’s strongest runs on record. Grain prices soared during the Covid-19 pandemic in 2021 and again in 2022 after Russia invaded Ukraine, one of the world’s top breadbaskets. The war pushed up prices for wheat and corn, contributing to rising global food prices. It also pushed net farm income to a record in 2022, the USDA said.
Since then, grain exports have resumed via the Black Sea, and better weather in key growing regions in South America helped bolster global crop supplies, pushing prices down.
In Iowa, the top corn-producing state, farmland values decreased by 3% this year, breaking a five-year streak of rising prices, according to an annual survey by Iowa State University. Farmland value often represents the largest portion of a farmer’s assets, making up roughly 80% of their total wealth, according to the USDA. …”
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President Musk is not only cutting cancer research for kids, next up is significant cuts to Social security and Medicare
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'They're coming for your Social Security': Alarms raised by new GOP funding plan
Alarms are being raised about new details of Republicans' new plan to keep the government open that experts say will inevitably involve cuts to Social Security and Medicare.Punchbowl News' Jake Sherman reported on Friday that Republican leaders were floating an agreement "that House Republicans...
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I need to pull my MAGA siblings aside at our family Christmas dinner tomorrow to try to help them understand that we are possibly going to have to be ready to help our parents financially soon. They barely make it month to month on what they pull in the SS.President Musk is not only cutting cancer research for kids, next up is significant cuts to Social security and Medicare
'They're coming for your Social Security': Alarms raised by new GOP funding plan
Alarms are being raised about new details of Republicans' new plan to keep the government open that experts say will inevitably involve cuts to Social Security and Medicare.Punchbowl News' Jake Sherman reported on Friday that Republican leaders were floating an agreement "that House Republicans...
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I wonder if Trump will notice Elon got what he wanted out of the bill while Trump did not.
lawtig02
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Yep. This whole thing was a huge success for Elon, a big loss for Trump, and an absolute embarrassment for congressional Republicans. I see a lot more of that coming in the future. Congressional Dems did fine and if they can stick together, they’ll have many, many more opportunities to be the adults in the room.
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You know, porkPresident Musk is not only cutting cancer research for kids, next up is significant cuts to Social security and Medicare
'They're coming for your Social Security': Alarms raised by new GOP funding plan
Alarms are being raised about new details of Republicans' new plan to keep the government open that experts say will inevitably involve cuts to Social Security and Medicare.Punchbowl News' Jake Sherman reported on Friday that Republican leaders were floating an agreement "that House Republicans...
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I see that Dems and some in the media have been referring to Elon as President Musk. I think if that meme goes viral, Trump will notice
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While I agree with you, the people who need to hear it are too stupid to understand it. The looks on the faces of MAGA family members when I utter the word Oligarchy tells me everything.
Your chances of success has nothing to do with the charges for the crimes you attempted to commit. You don't even have to fully understand what you're doing. So quit with the "you're not convinced" bullshit. It's irrelevant to anything whatsoever what the odds were. It's what their actions were. That includes the conspiracies and such.
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So, if Trump thwarted the will of the people somehow and was able to stay in power, you wouldn’t take up arms against what would by definition be a tyrannical government?
In other words, there would be violence as a result of the situation you described. And rightly so.
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"... But even with a shutdown averted, the episode demonstrated a well-established pattern by Mr. Trump. He often purposely blew up congressional negotiations during his first term, often with a tweet, only to be forced to retreat or give up his position in the face of an angry reaction from both allies and adversaries.
In 2018, Mr. Trump told lawmakers in the Oval Office that he would be “proud” to shut the government down if he did not get funding for a wall along the southern border. After a 35-day shutdown that extended through Christmas and New Year’s Day, Mr. Trump relented, agreeing to Democratic demands without getting the funding for his wall.
“There were certainly plenty of times where he went off script, but there were always people around who could rush to the White House get it resolved,” said Brendan Buck, who served as a top aide to House Speaker Paul Ryan during Mr. Trump’s first term. “This feels a little different, like it’s just sort of this voice-of-God Twitter account that is directing things.”
Still, Mr. Trump has benefited politically over the long run by seeking to bend lawmakers to his will. His supporters returned him to the White House in the election this year in part to resume that effort, but with Republicans in control of both chambers of Congress and a president who has a better understanding of how Washington works. ..."
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In 2018, Mr. Trump told lawmakers in the Oval Office that he would be “proud” to shut the government down if he did not get funding for a wall along the southern border. After a 35-day shutdown that extended through Christmas and New Year’s Day, Mr. Trump relented, agreeing to Democratic demands without getting the funding for his wall.
“There were certainly plenty of times where he went off script, but there were always people around who could rush to the White House get it resolved,” said Brendan Buck, who served as a top aide to House Speaker Paul Ryan during Mr. Trump’s first term. “This feels a little different, like it’s just sort of this voice-of-God Twitter account that is directing things.”
Still, Mr. Trump has benefited politically over the long run by seeking to bend lawmakers to his will. His supporters returned him to the White House in the election this year in part to resume that effort, but with Republicans in control of both chambers of Congress and a president who has a better understanding of how Washington works. ..."
Trump Wanted Shutdown to Happen on Biden’s Watch, Not His
The president-elect was eager to evade responsibility for the consequences of a potential shutdown even as he blew up a bipartisan deal that would have kept the government open.
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There is a perfectly good J6 thread to use for this discussion ... Jan 6 thread
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Trump said to see Elon Musk as useful activist after spending deal showdown
Musk’s role in government shutdown drama could be a preview of role he plays for incoming president next year"... Behind the scenes, even though Trump did not get his own demand for Republicans to raise the debt ceiling, the president-elect suggested Musk’s performance showed he could be a useful catalyst of activity once he takes office and leads the so-called “Department of Government Efficiency”.
... But although House Democrats mocked Trump as acting like the vice-president with Musk as the president, in an attempt to get under his skin, the extended honeymoon between the two men has continued – in another notable shift for Trump, whose political alliances often lack for longevity.
In Trump’s first term, Trump parted ways with his chief strategist Steve Bannon after he was depicted in the media as the puppeteer of the Oval Office. (One Saturday Night Live skit featured Bannon as the grim reaper standing behind Trump and calling shots in the White House).
The same has not been true for Musk, the people said, mainly because the dynamics are different: as the world’s richest man, Musk has commanded special status with Trump, who has separately liked the idea of having him as his attack dog, while Bannon was always seen as a staffer.
Still, many House Republicans have been left deeply frustrated by what they see as Musk meddling in congressional affairs. Musk was not elected to any office and also bought his way into Trump’s orbit by spending roughly $250m to boost his presidential campaign.
Multiple members complained bitterly about Musk’s influence over them as they found themselves glued to his X account between spending-deal meetings in an acknowledgement that Musk’s willingness to drop colossal amounts of cash made his threats of primary challenges a legitimate concern. ..."
Trump said to see Elon Musk as useful activist after spending deal showdown
Musk’s role in government shutdown drama could be a preview of role he plays for incoming president next year
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It's coming apart at the seams!
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I just think it’s hilarious that after whining for four years that Biden was not actually calling the shots, Pubs are now over the moon about a presidency in which a foreign-born billionaire Nazi apologist is now calling the shots.