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CFordUNC said:
Exactly. It's better than meekly surrendering because we think all of these RULEZ and NOMRZ will save us. They won't. Retaliate every single Republican gerrymandering with Democratic gerrymandering, and let it escalate to whatever level it's going to escalate.
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I never thought that the "rules and norms" will save us, instead I thought we'd have to save the rules and norms.

But I now agree with you that, on the whole, Dems can't let those things interfere with holding back Trump and Pubs' harm to our government and country. The rules and norms will simply have to be rebuilt once the more immediate threats are addressed.
 
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FTR, if the Dems in NY and CA pull the only reasonable remaining political machination, Trump will move on to another midterm rigging scheme.

Their nuclear option is obviously federalizing and/or militarizing all elections, but if that doesn’t occur, they will deploy election “monitors” en masse; work with local fascist and white supremacist groups to institute intimidation tactics; coordinate with sheriffs’ departments to create traffic “checkpoints” between liberal districts and polls; reduce polling stations; etc.
 
CFordUNC said:
Honestly. I'd much prefer Dementia Don to be tweeting about Sydney Sweeney than letting the Russians know that we're parking a couple of nuclear-armed subs off their coast.
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I agree. I'm pretty sure the Russians already knew there had been ballistic missile subs patrolling in areas where they could strike the Motherland for over 60 years. St. Donald of Mar-a-Lago announcing it was just way his way of letting is Daddy Vladdy know where they were. What was so catastrophic about John Walker's betrayal of selling to the Soviets the patrol areas and routes of the boomers was how much it helped the Soviets learn how to learn how to detect the boomers, BECAUSE THEY KNEW WERE TO LOOK! Now St Donald has pretty much done the same thing that got John Walker sent to prison for life. For all I know, St. Donald ordered the Navy assign those subs to a specific route/patrol areas so the Russians could update their tracking protocols from the days of John Walker.

ETA: I'm pretty sure I once read that the nuclear missle subs could hit every major city in the Northern Hemisphere from their home ports in Charleston and the Puget Sound. The moment those two subs left port, every major city in Russia was in range.
 
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wmheel1287 said:
Something tells me you have only seen/read/heard the Jaguar ads because of whatever right wing furor there is about them.
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I had never seen the American Eagle ads until they were posted here, and I am still unaware of the Jaguar ads which are allegedly so offensive.
 
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