Democrats and their sympathetic media covered up Biden's mental collapse

[Callatoroy]

But Callatoroy doesn't read the board, he just trolls the board.

not true at all. I read the board frequently. now i understand your definition of troll. anytime your hypocrisy is brought to light it equates to trolling. got it.

 

[Callatoroy]

The Guardian! Good one. They can't refute that

 

[Callatoroy]

Was the liberal media lying, or they just didn't know (until now)? The WSJ, a right leaning paper, just released this info now, at the very end of Biden's term. Where have THEY been?

Apparently Biden's staff kept it hidden from the media, including MSM. Understand?

And lapped up every word uttered by kjp without doing any actual journalism work to verify. So your argument is a lazy media?

Videos of Biden looking lost are a viral political tactic: ‘low-level manipulation’

The edited videos are often posted to question the US president’s mental fitness at 81

www.theguardian.com

 

[Callatoroy]

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/12/18/elon-musk-false-claims-cr-00195252

See, that’s what happens when the press actually does its job. We learn Elon and Trump are the liars we’ve always known them to be.

a pay increase was included and the stadium would wind up with fed funds being spent.

 

[Paine]

And lapped up every word uttered by kjp without doing any actual journalism work to verify. So your argument is a lazy media?

Videos of Biden looking lost are a viral political tactic: ‘low-level manipulation’

The edited videos are often posted to question the US president’s mental fitness at 81

www.theguardian.com

There absolutely were videos that were deceptively edited to make Biden look worse than he was. The issue is, those videos would have 0 merit if we all didn’t know Biden was old and had lost a step.

Biden’s team covered up for his mental state, that we can say for sure based on the WSJ reporting. It’s much more of a stretch to say the media covered it up. Especially when Biden’s team actively shielded him from the media, and the media pretty uniformly came out against Biden after the first debate.

 

[lawtig02]

a pay increase was included and the stadium would wind up with fed funds being spent.

Is it really that hard for you to call Elon a liar who worked hard to tank the bill by spreading lies about it? Lies that you apparently believed, by the way?

 

[Bobfripp]

And lapped up every word uttered by kjp without doing any actual journalism work to verify. So your argument is a lazy media?

Videos of Biden looking lost are a viral political tactic: ‘low-level manipulation’

The edited videos are often posted to question the US president’s mental fitness at 81

www.theguardian.com

Yes, lazy media, right-wing, left-wing, upside down and sideways-wing. That's my argument.

 

[Callatoroy]

Is it really that hard for you to call Elon a liar who worked hard to tank the bill by spreading lies about it? Lies that you apparently believed, by the way?

I mean its right here.

Inside a Huge Spending Deal: Disaster Money, a Football Stadium and More

The mammoth year-end federal funding measure congressional leaders agreed on does far more than just keep the government running. It is stuffed with all manner of policy and other changes.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Callatoroy]

There absolutely were videos that were deceptively edited to make Biden look worse than he was. The issue is, those videos would have 0 merit if we all didn’t know Biden was old and had lost a step.

Biden’s team covered up for his mental state, that we can say for sure based on the WSJ reporting. It’s much more of a stretch to say the media covered it up. Especially when Biden’s team actively shielded him from the media, and the media pretty uniformly came out against Biden after the first debate.

The media had been covering for biden since before the election (laptop lies). They only began to question anything after the debate when they absolutely had to because the entire world saw.

 

[lawtig02]

I mean its right here.

Inside a Huge Spending Deal: Disaster Money, a Football Stadium and More

The mammoth year-end federal funding measure congressional leaders agreed on does far more than just keep the government running. It is stuffed with all manner of policy and other changes.

www.nytimes.com

You’re SOOO close. Now if you just compare the actual bill to what Elon said about it, you’ll finally be able to judge for yourself whether Elon is a lying-ass liar. You know, like he’s been every day of his life.

 

[farce©]

not true at all. I read the board frequently. now i understand your definition of troll. anytime your hypocrisy is brought to light it equates to trolling. got it.

LOL. Then you knew nycfan already posted the original WSJ article on the Biden thread yesterday? If you knew why did you start a new thread? If you didn’t know, then you didn’t read the board.

 

[Callatoroy]

Is it really that hard for you to call Elon a liar who worked hard to tank the bill by spreading lies about it? Lies that you apparently believed, by the way?

I'll get something straight with you now. I have no problem saying musk lied or a lie that he might tell in the future. That isn't what I said in my post. I'm not under any illusion that musk or ramaswammy will fully transparent on everything they say. That doesn't mean this bill was good in any way and from what I've read it was a good thing that it got killed. The g'ment will continue and the hurricane sufferers will get funding. A 1500 page bill full of crap that mike johnson was in favor of for vagina reasons got derailed. Good. A win for America.

 

[Callatoroy]

LOL. Then you knew nycfan already posted the original WSJ article on the Biden thread yesterday? If you knew why did you start a new thread? If you didn’t know, then you didn’t read the board.

because I didn't see it. i said i read the board frequently. i didn't say i read every thread every day. not to hard to understand is it?

 

[lawtig02]

I'll get something straight with you now. I have no problem saying musk lied or a lie that he might tell in the future. That isn't what I said in my post. I'm not under any illusion that musk or ramaswammy will fully transparent on everything they say. That doesn't mean this bill was good in any way and from what I've read it was a good thing that it got killed. The g'ment will continue and the hurricane sufferers will get funding. A 1500 page bill full of crap that mike johnson was in favor of for vagina reasons got derailed. Good. A win for America.

Well you’ve at least come a long way from, “Believe what?” Give it another day or two and maybe you’ll be able to see the irony in starting a thread about the lying press while not QUITE being able to call the source of your own information the habitual liar he is. And that goes just as much for Trump as it does for his boss.

 

[finesse]

because I didn't see it. i said i read the board frequently. i didn't say i read every thread every day. not to hard to understand is it?

Since your remarks are almost always political, maybe you should read those, That's not all of them.

 

[Callatoroy]

because I didn't see it. i said i read the board frequently. i didn't say i read every thread every day. not to hard to understand is it?

I found it. Its half way down the 2nd page in the biden thread just where you said it would be. had dust all over it because its the last post in the thread. just blown away it got so much discussion. But props to nyc for posting it.

 

[Bobfripp]

The media had been covering for biden since before the election (laptop lies). They only began to question anything after the debate when they absolutely had to because the entire world saw.

Wow, a mea culpa from a reporter! How about that?! Surely that guy must work for Fox News or One America News Network? No?

 

[Callatoroy]

Well you’ve at least come a long way from, “Believe what?” Give it another day or two and maybe you’ll be able to see the irony in starting a thread about the lying press while not QUITE being able to call the source of your own information the habitual liar he is. And that goes just as much for Trump as it does for his boss.

my "believe what" question was for you to further clarify what you were asking. Was it the entire premise, or the quote I posted? You didn't clarify that. As for my source, I'm not sure what you are referencing related to your claim of musk's lie. i got my info from the ny times piece that referenced pay raises, healthcare adjustments and the dc stadium. I never quoted but one comment from musk.

So you think it was a bad thing that 1500 page bill got tanked? Not trying to put words in your mouth but it came across that you do based on your earlier comments. Why do you oppose the bill getting killed?

 

[lawtig02]

my "believe what" question was for you to further clarify what you were asking. Was it the entire premise, or the quote I posted? You didn't clarify that. As for my source, I'm not sure what you are referencing related to your claim of musk's lie. i got my info from the ny times piece that referenced pay raises, healthcare adjustments and the dc stadium. I never quoted but one comment from musk.

So you think it was a bad thing that 1500 page bill got tanked? Not trying to put words in your mouth but it came across that you do based on your earlier comments. Why do you oppose the bill getting killed?

Because it was a bipartisan bill that both Dems and Pubs had worked on to keep the government open and avoid fiscal turmoil. I thought you liked bipartisanship. Or is that just when Dems are calling all the shots?

 

[finesse]

Don't know anything about the bill but, on general principles, when a person of influence resorts to outright lies instead of challenges on merit to oppose something, I get suspicious. It's not like the president's boss isn't going to get his side heard.