Dictator Trump

[CFordUNC]

lol. This just isn't fair and humane anymore. Ok. You are a conservative. Please, no more novels and I'm letting you have the last word.

Waving the white flag and bowing out Iike a whipped dog is the first smart damn thing you’ve ever done on this board. Let it be a lesson to you to not try to match shit talking wits with someone who relishes it way more than you.

Let me know where to send the final rent check and we’re even!

 

[Bobfripp]

Fair point. But he didn't do that.

Well, Trump did do that. and according to Trump

Executive branch >> Legislative branch = Judicial branch (apologies to Sen. Tuberville)

But according to the US Constitution and 250 years of executive, legislative and judicial opinion ... which apparently doesn't count for shit anymore ...

Executive branch = Legislative branch = Judicial branch

What you need to know about impoundment, and how Trump vows to use it

It's a concept that’s normally dry, esoteric and distanced from Americans' everyday lives, yet the heart of the matter is a key question of American democracy.

www.pbs.org

 

[Callatoroy]

Well, Trump did do that. and according to Trump

Executive branch >> Legislative branch = Judicial branch (apologies to Sen. Tuberville)

But according to the US Constitution and 250 years of executive, legislative and judicial opinion ... which apparently doesn't count for shit anymore ...

Executive branch = Legislative branch = Judicial branch

What you need to know about impoundment, and how Trump vows to use it

It's a concept that’s normally dry, esoteric and distanced from Americans' everyday lives, yet the heart of the matter is a key question of American democracy.

www.pbs.org

When it all shakes out though the fallout will be Judicial Branch > Executive Branch = Legislative Branch

 

[Shenanigans]

Well zuckerberg yea. He's a douche. I think the point is Biden would have never thought to audit anything. Looking for efficiency gains and to reduce wasteful spending hasn't been a big priority for politicians on either side until now. It's long overdue and beyond necessary. I can respect not liking the method taken, but to bitch when you find spending like what was found under USAID, that's not methodology, that's partisan bullshit and I can't respect that at all. And I'm using that as an example. Can't wait until the shit at the pentagon is highlighted.

Thinks Elon's not a douche...

It's hilarious how much you bootlick. Elon and Trump would not give a shit about you if you were growing on their ass.

Spoiler, they are not going to save any money for you. All money is going into their pockets, or the pockets of other very rich people. You are not close to rich.

 

[tallheel95]

Fair point. But he didn't do that. And elon isn't doing a true audit as an accounting firm would do. He's more trying to uncover just the type of wasteful spending he has so far, and then make a public showing to gin up good pub for trump. He's kind of playing circus director and taking a business approach to g'ment. I like that because I think there are many advantages that g'ments could adopt from the business world. I also like that the public gets to see how the tax dollars are being spent and by which agency. And, its his right to hire whomever he wants for that type of role. The method elon is using isn't to my liking and I think it hurts trump because there is no need to take a sledge hammer approach and then rub that in the left's nose. Ultimately he will lose some public support when he could have accomplished the same thing and actually increased his public support.

Calla, in all seriousness… I think what concerns me is that you are taking at face value what is being said about these actions and believing this is all about Trump/Musk cutting government spending to reduce waste and debt. I’m not sure that is what is actually happening here, and that is what is scaring me. If there were reasonable, principled people coming in to audit the system, reduce spending (including crazy military spending) AND raise taxes on the 1% to reduce debt… sign me up. The national debt IS a looming problem for this country. However, these are not actions of reasonable, principled people and my worry is that we are about to enter a dark era in American history.

 

[finesse]

The national debt is a problem AND it's a problem largely caused by either the Republicans directly or in cleaning up their messes. Reagan almost tripled it and stuck us with huge interest payments.

 

[MOUNTAINH33L]

Calla might be the biggest Musk stan on the ZZLP. Sad!

 

[finesse]

Isn't the proper term Musk rat?

 

[Shenanigans]

FYI I'm confident that Shenanigans = Silence Dogood (on one of these threads, Shenanigans replied to himself in Silence's voice, among other evidence). They might both be Scientific Mapp.

Super, I figured out your voice thing, I think. If you start to reply to one message, leave that area by hitting back, then hit reply to another message, it will include both messages you are replying to it seems. There isn't a good way to close out of the 1st reply area. I can assure you I don't know anyone here. I mainly joined to make fun of Callatoroy, since he is so gullible. How much money do you think he has given Trump? I'm guessing at least 5k

 

[ZenMode]

Unfortunately, based on the stupidity of American voters, and what has transpired the last 3 weeks, we now are in a conservative dictatorship.

I don't expect to have a democrat as president, or a majority in the House or Senate in my lifetime again. I'm in my early 40's.

The leopards are inside the house now.

If Trump is alive in 4 years, he will 100% try to remain the president. I think the right will take him out, blame democrats, as Elon, JD and Thiel are much more useful for their techbro revolution.

This is the reality. Conservatives are your enemy now. Treat them as such. There is no negotiating. Elections in 2 years will be fully rigged, even 70% voting blue won't matter.

They want Project 2025, and we have to stop them. Don't be surprised if trans folks and anyone (legal or illegal) speaking Spanish is in an internment camp.

I wish Americans weren't so fucking stupid, but we are.

Here's to hoping hoping Elon and Trump engage in a battle of smallest dick. Might be our only hope.

 

[ZenMode]

My favorite part was the part about not having another Democrat as president for the rest of your life, lol.

Democrats will have a great chance to win the White House in 2028 if they can drop some of the dumb stuff from their platform and focus on kitchen table issues.

Yes. If they stop kowtowing to the fringe in their party and nominate a quality candidate.

Biden, a decent, centrist candidate with (at least at the time he was elected) no real ties to wokeness, DEI or other fringe issues, just freaking curb stomped Trump in 2020.

This isn't rocket surgery or brain science.

 

[Shenanigans]

Like you aren't actually watching what is happening.

You are very likely the 2nd most useless twat here, only behind the OG. You learned from the best!

Spoiler, since you are useless, he will 100% be ignoring court rulings.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5139767-trump-respect-federal-judges/amp/&ved=2ahUKEwj1iOStr76LAxUiITQIHYb0FVgQ0PADKAB6BAgcEAE&usg=AOvVaw3p9eVDaeioYCp-JDCQ7zWX

 

[Shenanigans]

Yes. If they stop kowtowing to the fringe in their party and nominate a quality candidate.

Biden, a decent, centrist candidate with (at least at the time he was elected) no real ties to wokeness, DEI or other fringe issues, just freaking curb stomped Trump in 2020.

This isn't rocket surgery or brain science.

You just needed an old white guy to vote for, we know.

 

[Shenanigans]

Yes. If they stop kowtowing to the fringe in their party and nominate a quality candidate.

Biden, a decent, centrist candidate with (at least at the time he was elected) no real ties to wokeness, DEI or other fringe issues, just freaking curb stomped Trump in 2020.

This isn't rocket surgery or brain science.

Kamala did not mention trans people once during her campaign. Guess who did? The GOP kowtows to morons, and America has a shit ton of them. Enjoy your fascism, let's make it mainstream!

 

[MOUNTAINH33L]

If Trump announced the implementation of droit du seigneur marriages within the MAGA base would skyrocket.

 

[finesse]

If Trump announced the implementation of droit du seigneur marriages within the MAGA base would skyrocket.

I don't think he's up to it.

 

[MOUNTAINH33L]

I don't think he's up to it.

He can just have Musk do the job, you know, like he's doing with the Presidency.

 

[Milk and Cookies]

For anyone who has been in an organization of even medium size, it’s take a very long time to conduct a proper budget audit. If you’re cutting funding from programs in less than 2 weeks on the job it is physically impossible for you to have learned what they do or where the waste is. It’s simply impossible. You don’t care about accuracy, just optics. This is organizational science 101.

 

[ZenMode]

Kamala did not mention trans people once during her campaign. Guess who did? The GOP kowtows to morons, and America has a shit ton of them. Enjoy your fascism, let's make it mainstream!

She didn't mention it once. Do you know how many times she disavowed her previous support for taxpayer funded, sex change operations for illegal immigrants in prison? Zero. Not one time could she step back from that ludicrous position.

Guess what? The Trump campaign pounded the airwaves with ads about it. "She's for they/them. He's for you." I read, in some states, that ad accounted for over 1/3 of their ad-spend.

She was asked about it and all she could muster was "I will follow the law".

 

[finesse]

I admit, that's so controversial since it had happened twice at that time after repeated rulings that the law demanded that it happen
(one passed during Trump's first term) that she should have recognized how important it was. I think she assumed there wasn't nearly as many bigoted braindead assholes as there actually was or the plethora of liars and deniers that were willing to distort this into something important. But, "Go ,Team!". Right, Zen?