DOGE Catch-All | DOGE ledger “riddled with errors”

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CFordUNC said:
I'm with you 100% on the importance of immigrants in our country for 100% of the reasons you stated.

To answer your initial question, I'll answer how I personally would define border security. To me, border security is investing in more personnel and more technology (AI, biometrics/facial recognition, transportable surveillance towers, cameras, radar/sensors, etc.) at the southern border. But just as important, ans perhaps more so, it's investing in more immigration system personnel (processing personnel, judges, etc.) to make our system of legal immigration quicker, more efficient, and more humane.

Anyone who thinks we can "close" the southern border or who thinks that 100% of illegal border crossings can be stopped, is delusional. But I do think that there are technological means to beef up border security in a way that isn't performative political theater.
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Is it impossible because of the size of the border? Do other nations with similar borders have the same issue?
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This is so absurd. A real, proper audit could have been a real benefit. This is a farce.
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Its theater for idiots/morons, you know memebers of the cult.
 

Fact check: Musk, Trump deceive about a Trump-era Pentagon contract for ‘social deception’ defense​




“President Donald Trump and ally Elon Musk are misleadingly depicting a Pentagon defense contract that was awarded during Trump’s first presidency.

The $9.1 million contract was awarded to Thomson Reuters Special Services, a company that provides “data-driven solutions” to the federal government and other clients, to work on defenses against “social engineering” cyberattacks, which use “social deception” tactics to trick humans.

In a Wednesday social media post that didn’t explain what the contract was actually for, Musk insinuated that the Reuters news agency, which has the same parent company as Thomson Reuters Special Services, was paid by the government to engage in deception.

And neither Musk nor Trump, who made a Thursday post amplifying Musk’s claim, noted that the contract began under Trump in 2018.

Asked for comment, Thomson Reuters Special Services chief executive Steve Rubley said in a Thursday statement to CNN that “recent public discourse” has “inaccurately represented the nature of the business between TRSS and the Department of Defense,” and has incorrectly conflated Reuters News with TRSS, a separate legal entity that has its own board of directors and “operates independently from Reuters News.”

… Musk has previously criticized the Reuters news agency over its coverage of his business ventures. He wrote on his X social media platform on Wednesday night: “Reuters was paid millions of dollars by the US government for ‘large scale social deception’. That is literally what it says on the purchase order! They’re a total scam. Just wow.”

… detailed information about the contract has long been publicly available on the US government’s spending disclosure website.

… The nature of the contract was described, in the brief and vague manner typical of federal contract descriptions, as “ACTIVE SOCIAL ENGINEERING DEFENSE (ASED) LARGE SCALE SOCIAL DECEPTION (LSD).”

… DARPA explained on its website that it was seeking to develop technology to “automatically identify, disrupt, and investigate social engineering attacks” – attacks known as “social engineering” because they try to deceive or “engineer” humans into performing certain actions, like clicking on links to malicious software, divulging sensitive information or giving up money. …”
 


See, if DOGE would be targeted in cuts (like weapons systems the military doesn’t even want), it could be valuable.

But right now they are weed whacking everything they can reach without any apparent plan or motivation other than. destroying anything they can as fast as they can.
 
nycfan said:

Fact check: Musk, Trump deceive about a Trump-era Pentagon contract for ‘social deception’ defense​




“President Donald Trump and ally Elon Musk are misleadingly depicting a Pentagon defense contract that was awarded during Trump’s first presidency.

The $9.1 million contract was awarded to Thomson Reuters Special Services, a company that provides “data-driven solutions” to the federal government and other clients, to work on defenses against “social engineering” cyberattacks, which use “social deception” tactics to trick humans.

In a Wednesday social media post that didn’t explain what the contract was actually for, Musk insinuated that the Reuters news agency, which has the same parent company as Thomson Reuters Special Services, was paid by the government to engage in deception.

And neither Musk nor Trump, who made a Thursday post amplifying Musk’s claim, noted that the contract began under Trump in 2018.

Asked for comment, Thomson Reuters Special Services chief executive Steve Rubley said in a Thursday statement to CNN that “recent public discourse” has “inaccurately represented the nature of the business between TRSS and the Department of Defense,” and has incorrectly conflated Reuters News with TRSS, a separate legal entity that has its own board of directors and “operates independently from Reuters News.”

… Musk has previously criticized the Reuters news agency over its coverage of his business ventures. He wrote on his X social media platform on Wednesday night: “Reuters was paid millions of dollars by the US government for ‘large scale social deception’. That is literally what it says on the purchase order! They’re a total scam. Just wow.”

… detailed information about the contract has long been publicly available on the US government’s spending disclosure website.

… The nature of the contract was described, in the brief and vague manner typical of federal contract descriptions, as “ACTIVE SOCIAL ENGINEERING DEFENSE (ASED) LARGE SCALE SOCIAL DECEPTION (LSD).”

… DARPA explained on its website that it was seeking to develop technology to “automatically identify, disrupt, and investigate social engineering attacks” – attacks known as “social engineering” because they try to deceive or “engineer” humans into performing certain actions, like clicking on links to malicious software, divulging sensitive information or giving up money. …”
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Interesting to me, and please correct me if I’m wrong, but Musk has found all of this “waste, fraud” and somehow it is all the fault of the Democrats. Are we to believe that Democrats are solely responsible for all waste and fraud in the US government? I would think that should set off alarm bells for anyone with a mind that thinks critically.
Which means MAGAts are being deceived. Shocking I know from the crowd that if Trump and Musk shit and pissed in a bucket they would shower in it and tell you how clean they are.
 
HandsonFire said:
Interesting to me, and please correct me if I’m wrong, but Musk has found all of this “waste, fraud” and somehow it is all the fault of the Democrats. Are we to believe that Democrats are solely responsible for all waste and fraud in the US government? I would think that should set off alarm bells for anyone with a mind that thinks critically.
Which means MAGAts are being deceived. Shocking I know from the crowd that if Trump and Musk shit and pissed in a bucket they would shower in it and tell you how clean they are.
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You are correct. Unfortunately there is almost no overlap between those who think critically and MAGA.
 
nycfan said:


See, if DOGE would be targeted in cuts (like weapons systems the military doesn’t even want), it could be valuable.

But right now they are weed whacking everything they can reach without any apparent plan or motivation other than. destroying anything they can as fast as they can.
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Agreed
 
When they compain about Dem spending, please keep in mind that for the past 15 Congresses (1995-2024) Repulicans controlled the House 22 of the 30 years and 18 of the 30 in the Senate.
And Rs will control for thne next two as well
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Party Government Since 1857 | US House of Representatives: History, Art & Archives

This chart shows the party divisions in both chambers of Congress and the party control of the White House since the advent of the modern party system. When the President's party holds the majority in both chambers, it is considered a unified government. Since 1857, the government has been...
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Musk's Hyper-McCarthyism

Don't Take Any of This At Face Value
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“Here’s the thing: I’m willing to hazard that there is just about nothing—yes, nothing—that Trump and Musk are doing that was not already dreamt up in the philosophies of Rothbard and Francis. Whether it’s come to pass by their court intellectuals’ reading, some structural analogy between the movements to its forebears, or even demonic possession, it kind of doesn’t matter: it’s all there.

Consider “DOGE:” This is exactly the kind of wholesale attack on the state that the anarcho-capitalist Rothbard envisioned and desired. And consider the methods: the public smearing of civil servants and their agencies with misleading or downright false “revelations.” This corresponds precisely to Rothbard’s recommended adoption of McCarthyism as a political technique. What Rothbard understood was that McCarthy was undertaking not an attack on Communists so much as an attack on liberalism and institutions.”
 
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