DOGE Catch-All | DOGE ledger “riddled with errors”

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Silence Dogood said:
Wayne, the gift that keeps on giving. You're just another prime example of why the dem party is flailing in the wind. Its ok to recognize the fraud DOGE is presenting. You're a taxpayer too. I see the left only offers hate and dismisses govt waste and fraud every chance they get.
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DOGE is definitely presenting itself as a fraud.

Fwiw, I'd rather dismiss waste and fraud (which, needless to say, I don't) than to elect it president.
 
nycfan said:

3 men claiming to be from DOGE show up at San Francisco City Hall, demand records​


www.cbsnews.com

3 men claiming to be from DOGE show up at San Francisco City Hall, demand records

San Francisco city officials are investigating after three men who claimed to be from the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) showed up at City Hall on Friday demanding records from offices before fleeing.
www.cbsnews.com www.cbsnews.com

[Sounds like DOGE wannabes/dopey would-be criminals or trolls — SF officials refused their demands and eventually they left]
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They should have printed up fake DOGE employee IDs. It’s not like there’s a real DOGE ID to compare it to.
 
Silence Dogood said:
Wayne, the gift that keeps on giving. You're just another prime example of why the dem party is flailing in the wind. Its ok to recognize the fraud DOGE is presenting. You're a taxpayer too. I see the left only offers hate and dismisses govt waste and fraud every chance they get.
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They've presented no fraud. And they've presented no evidence of fraud. And the reason they've presented no evidence is because they don't have to. They aren't required to be transparent with the American public. They just say stuff, and you swallow it whole. It's obvious you aren't the brightest bulb in the closet, but what little capacity you've ever had for logic and critical thinking has been poisoned by too many hours on X soaking up Elon Musk's misinformation highway. You're the type of ignorant mark that con men like Donald Trump and Elon Musk have been exploiting their entire careers.
 
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WaynetheDrain said:
They've presented no fraud. And they've presented no evidence of fraud. And the reason they've presented no evidence is because they don't have to. They aren't required to be transparent with the American public. They just say stuff, and you swallow it whole. It's obvious you aren't the brightest bulb in the closet, but what little capacity you've ever had for logic and critical thinking has been poisoned by too many hours on X soaking up Elon Musk's misinformation highway. You're the type of ignorant mark that con men like Donald Trump and Elon Musk have been exploiting their entire careers.
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The problem with your rationale is you're assuming there is no fraud and the govt is doing everything effectively and efficiently.
 
Just learned that a good friend of mind has been laid off from a job she loved because it was connected to USAID. She's devastated, and there is no good reason for her to lose that job, or for any of these people to lose their jobs. And unfortunately I'm sure that she won't be the last person I know personally who will lose their job and perhaps career (and maybe even more) because of this insanity and idiocy and pure greed. And that's all any of this is. Just infuriating to see good, hard-working, and competent people getting hurt because of the insanity and chaos that is Trump 2.0. But I guess the cruelty is the point, as others have noted.
 
Silence Dogood said:
The problem with your rationale is you're assuming there is no fraud and the govt is doing everything effectively and efficiently.
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So the way to fix that is to literally gut the government and abolish whole departments and agencies that have existed and done good work for decades, and fire millions of government workers and cut off vital research funding for things like cancer and vaccine research? I'm sorry but that's insane and wildly impractical. It's like cutting off an entire arm to get rid of a hangnail.
 
Silence Dogood said:
The problem with your rationale is you're assuming there is no fraud and the govt is doing everything effectively and efficiently.
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And the problem with your rationale is you have none.

You disagree with spending money that Congress has already appropriated. Fine. That doesn't make it waste, or fraud. And to date, all DOGE has done is disrupt that spending.

There has been no actual evidence of fraud or misappropriation of funds, but there has been evidence of misappropriation of classified information and taxpayers PII.

The person you voted for for president cannot run a charity in New York, and has felony convictions, both on grounds of fraud. Proven in court.

Don't pretend you actually give a shit. about fraud. Drop the fig leaf.
 
Silence Dogood said:
The problem with your rationale is you're assuming there is no fraud and the govt is doing everything effectively and efficiently.
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And the problem with YOUR rationale is that you attribute opinions to people despite the fact they've never held that belief. Nobody on this thread has EVER assumed or stated there is no fraud and inefficiency in government. But you don't weed fraud out by removing entire departments from our government.

Explain to me how firing 1260 members of the CDC's Epidemic Intelligence Service is eliminating fraud and inefficiency. These are the people designed to track and locate new viruses before they spread and become epidemics. Explain to me how that makes our country more safe. Explain how that benefits us to not be able to adequately prepare for possible health crises that may arise.
 
WaynetheDrain said:
And the problem with YOUR rationale is that you attribute opinions to people despite the fact they've never held that belief. Nobody on this thread has EVER assumed or stated there is no fraud and inefficiency in government. But you don't weed fraud out by removing entire departments from our government.

Explain to me how firing 1260 members of the CDC's Epidemic Intelligence Service is eliminating fraud and inefficiency. These are the people designed to track and locate new viruses before they spread and become epidemics. Explain to me how that makes our country more safe. Explain how that benefits us to not be able to adequately prepare for possible health crises that may arise.
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Or this…

 
Silence Dogood said:
The problem with your rationale is you're assuming there is no fraud and the govt is doing everything effectively and efficiently.
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Nobody is assuming there is no fraud. Fraud has always existed and to some extent will always exist.

There are also far more capable procedures already in place to find and root out fraud. It isn’t a battle you just win. It is and will always be a constant battle.

Most importantly, the two fraudsters you have put in charge aren’t interested in rooting out fraud. In fact they are removing all of the checks that exist. Instead they are interested in perpetuating their own fraud and DOGE is just a propaganda campaign to give them cover to do it.
 
WaynetheDrain said:
Explain to me how firing 1260 members of the CDC's Epidemic Intelligence Service is eliminating fraud and inefficiency. These are the people designed to track and locate new viruses before they spread and become epidemics. Explain to me how that makes our country more safe. Explain how that benefits us to not be able to adequately prepare for possible health crises that may arise.
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It's possible that the 1260 could be a little bloat. Maybe the optimal staffing level is lower. Problem is that nobody knows how to determine the *optimal* staffing level. The people going around whacking jobs certainly don't.

It would be like me revamping military operations. What do you mean, 25 people in a platoon, when only 10 are necessary? It's possible that 25 *is* too many, but I wouldn't be able to determine that; my alternative idea is almost certainly wrong (and if it's not, it's only by luck); and the folks who do this for a living have way, way, way better insight as to the optimal platoon size. They might not be perfect, but their 90% accurate rate is going to be way better than my 10% accuracy rate.
 
DiehardHeelFan said:
Or this…

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I expect to see a lot of this over the next four years. Federal agency or program or department lays off too many workers or necessary workers, discovers they have fucked up and start facing a major backlash as things fall apart, then rush to rehire said people but either can't find them or the fired workers just tell them to eff off after getting new jobs. It's going to be a total shitshow, no question. And the problem is that after this it is likely going to be very hard to hire new federal workers (especially highly qualified) in any federal agency and department for years and years, even under a Democratic POTUS.
 
WaynetheDrain said:
And the problem with YOUR rationale is that you attribute opinions to people despite the fact they've never held that belief. Nobody on this thread has EVER assumed or stated there is no fraud and inefficiency in government. But you don't weed fraud out by removing entire departments from our government.

Explain to me how firing 1260 members of the CDC's Epidemic Intelligence Service is eliminating fraud and inefficiency. These are the people designed to track and locate new viruses before they spread and become epidemics. Explain to me how that makes our country more safe. Explain how that benefits us to not be able to adequately prepare for possible health crises that may arise.
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Science is fake news hur dee hur
 
Mulberry Heel said:
So the way to fix that is to literally gut the government and abolish whole departments and agencies that have existed and done good work for decades, and fire millions of government workers and cut off vital research funding for things like cancer and vaccine research? I'm sorry but that's insane and wildly impractical. It's like cutting off an entire arm to get rid of a hangnail.
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You went way off the rails and started exaggerating.
 
ChapelHillSooner said:
Nobody is assuming there is no fraud. Fraud has always existed and to some extent will always exist.

There are also far more capable procedures already in place to find and root out fraud. It isn’t a battle you just win. It is and will always be a constant battle.

Most importantly, the two fraudsters you have put in charge aren’t interested in rooting out fraud. In fact they are removing all of the checks that exist. Instead they are interested in perpetuating their own fraud and DOGE is just a propaganda campaign to give them cover to do it.
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There isn't capable procedures in place, hence the mess the govt is in. What fraud is taking place thus far in this administration??
 
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