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Well it’s your right to think that. It’s just a fact that what you call socialized medicine and class warfare is quite popular with the American public when they’re asked.
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“Eat the Rich” memes spread, but is it a political movement?
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The wealthy and powerful try that everywhere. But in America, they have been way more successful with it. This is not a class-conscious country and it is highly unlikely to ever be one.
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And…those are feel good taxes for politicians. Politician…”All we are doing is helping you overcome”. Guess states taxing groceries are fighting obesity.
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No, the Christian right is not diverse. Black churches are left as hockey sticks, and hispanic churches have leaned left for a while.
Finding diversity at a MAGA rally is like a "Where's Waldo" exercise.
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Just going to drop this here. Not sure how anyone can debate that trump never called immigrants murders, mentally ill, prisoners, or rapist. There are simply so many examples from his rallies.
And again, I’m no fan of his. I think he was perhaps the worst president. He was the worst president, largely because of what’s happened at the border. He is allowed, in my opinion and in the opinion of the gentlemen behind me who know this better than anybody, much more than 20 million people into our country, many from prisons and jails, many from mental institutions, insane asylums, and many terrorists, and this was when I left. This is a very famous chart now because this chart probably saved my life, but this chart, the arrow on the bottom shows that this was the lowest … this was the last week in office for me because of a horrible, horrible election where I got many millions more votes than I got the first time, but didn’t quite make it, just a little bit short. We’ve got to clean up our borders, we have to clean up our elections, or we’re not going to have a country, but that’s my last week. The arrow on the bottom, you see, as the gentlemen we’re talking, that’s the lowest point in the recorded history of the
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And again, I’m no fan of his. I think he was perhaps the worst president. He was the worst president, largely because of what’s happened at the border. He is allowed, in my opinion and in the opinion of the gentlemen behind me who know this better than anybody, much more than 20 million people into our country, many from prisons and jails, many from mental institutions, insane asylums, and many terrorists, and this was when I left. This is a very famous chart now because this chart probably saved my life, but this chart, the arrow on the bottom shows that this was the lowest … this was the last week in office for me because of a horrible, horrible election where I got many millions more votes than I got the first time, but didn’t quite make it, just a little bit short. We’ve got to clean up our borders, we have to clean up our elections, or we’re not going to have a country, but that’s my last week. The arrow on the bottom, you see, as the gentlemen we’re talking, that’s the lowest point in the recorded history of the
Donald Trump Speaks at the Southern Border
Donald Trump : So thank you very much, everybody. It's a very sad time for this country in many ways. You had a candidate, I was no fan of Joe Biden, but t...
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FULL TRANSCRIPT: Trump's On Immigration In Wisconsin Rally
Read the full transcript of former President Donald Trump's remarks on immigration in the battleground state of Wisconsin Saturday, September 28, 2024. Listen to the audio version here: TRANSCRIPT: DONALD TRUMP: Well, thank you very
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But it was so bad. Never done. But under Kamala Harris, more than 13,099 convicted murderers. So these are people that have gone through the system. They’re convicted. They’re in jails for life. Some are getting the death sentence. But instead of that, they’ve crossed our border. They’ve been taken out by their countries and set free into the United States of America. So they’re free to kill again. Oh, they’ll kill. These are killers.
These are killers that — at a level that nobody’s ever seen. Not even your great law enforcement has ever seen people like this. They got a dose of it, though, recently. They got a dose of it. Their jobs have become a lot tougher. And you remember when they say, no, no, these are migrants. These migrants, they don’t commit crimes like us. No, no. They make our criminals look like babies. These are stone-cold killers. They’ll walk into your kitchen, they’ll cut your throat.
Kamala also let in 25,272 illegals convicted for rape, sex offenses, or sexual assault. She let in 231 criminal aliens convicted of violence, assault. Everything but death happened to the people they assaulted. In total, she let in 425,431 people convicted of — and these are convicted of the worst crimes — they’re criminal aliens, along with an additional 222,000 illegals with pending criminal charges. Many of those charges also are murder, which will add on to your 13,000 murderers that were let into the country.
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'Black jobs'? Trump draws pushback after anti-immigration rant
The former president also invoked "Hispanic jobs" in the debate, prompting jokes and confusion over whether immigrants are really taking jobs away from U.S. citizens.
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"They're taking Black jobs now and it could be 18, it could be 19 and even 20 million people," former President Donald Trump said in the debate Thursday about the role immigrants play in the U.S. economy. "They're taking Black jobs, and they're taking Hispanic jobs, and you haven't seen it yet, but you're going to see something that's going to be the worst in our history."
Not sure how anyone can argue that trump didn't say this crap. Near the end he got worse and worse in his rhetoric regarding immigrants.
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I understand the premise of your argument. What I’ve been asking for, in case you weren’t clever enough to figure it out, is some actual evidence. I think we’ve all taken your failure to deliver as an indication that you don’t have any, but if that’s not the case, here’s your opportunity to set the record straight.
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No, what you have tried to do is bait me into saying something you can misconstrue for your own enjoyment. It isn't hard to grasp if you have even the tiniest amount of working common sense. So if you want to refute it then by all means knock yourself out. Research it till you find what you want.
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You assert something with no specifics, examples or other support and then demand anyone disagreeing prove you wrong.
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“…In the survey from NORC at the University of Chicago, about 8 in 10 U.S. adults said the person who committed the killing has “a great deal” or “a moderate amount” of responsibility for the Dec. 4 shooting of Brian Thompson.
About 7 in 10 adults say that denials for health care coverage by insurance companies, or the profits made by health insurance companies, also bear at least “a moderate amount” of responsibility for Thompson’s death. Younger Americans are particularly likely to see the murder as the result of a confluence of forces rather than just one person’s action. …”
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Americans under 30 are especially likely to think a mix of factors is to blame for Thompson’s death. They say that insurance company denials and profits are about as responsible as Thompson’s killer for his death. About 7 in 10 U.S. adults between 18 and 29 say “a great deal” or “a moderate amount” of responsibility falls on profits made by health insurance companies, denials for health care coverage by health insurance companies or the person who committed the killing.
Young people are also the least likely age group to say “a great deal” of responsibility falls on the person who committed the killing. Only about 4 in 10 say that, compared with about 6 in 10 between 30 and 59. Roughly 8 in 10 adults over 60 say that person deserves “a great deal” of responsibility.
About two-thirds of young people place at least a moderate level of blame on wealth or income inequality, in general.
People under 30 are more likely to place blame on the media, with 54% saying that compared with about one-third of older adults. …”
Americans under 30 are especially likely to think a mix of factors is to blame for Thompson’s death. They say that insurance company denials and profits are about as responsible as Thompson’s killer for his death. About 7 in 10 U.S. adults between 18 and 29 say “a great deal” or “a moderate amount” of responsibility falls on profits made by health insurance companies, denials for health care coverage by health insurance companies or the person who committed the killing.
Young people are also the least likely age group to say “a great deal” of responsibility falls on the person who committed the killing. Only about 4 in 10 say that, compared with about 6 in 10 between 30 and 59. Roughly 8 in 10 adults over 60 say that person deserves “a great deal” of responsibility.
About two-thirds of young people place at least a moderate level of blame on wealth or income inequality, in general.
People under 30 are more likely to place blame on the media, with 54% saying that compared with about one-third of older adults. …”
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I didn't demand anything. I don't care if you believe my assertion or not. If you don't believe it, then feel free to investigate further. Or not. I don't care.You assert something with no specifics, examples or other support and then demand anyone disagreeing prove you wrong.
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If you truly don't care, then one must wonder why you seem to need to have the last word....
It's very easy to see which threads and topics I don't care about as I don't post on them, and I don't engage in debate or provide (or not provide) evidence.
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Ok, mums the word.
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I only say this because I used to go with that "I don't care line", but in actuality if I didn't care to some extent I wouldn't post.
I do care about people and how they are treated. I don't believe people should be marginalized based off of things like who they love or the color of their skin.
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Because mo matter how bad it is for them they can still tell themselves they're superior to others who aren't straight white Christians.
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I find this very sad.
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Really? I find it somewhat encouraging.
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I do, too.