Epstein Files | Ghislaine Maxwell

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so it looks like the age of consent in most states is 16. is a 16 yr old that much more 'mature' of consenting than a 14 yr old? than a 12 yr old?

am i reading that right? the politicians that you elect think 16 is just fine. all you judgmental holier than thou freaks must agree 16 is just fine for your daughters to be sexually legal over and over again with snot nosed 16 yr olds or with 'perverted' 70 yr olds......let that sink in while praising your party.
 
!6 is old enough that a pregnancy is not likely to be physically threatening. If you rely on mental and emotional maturity, age isn't particularly germane since there are plenty of 30 year olds and older who are neither. Since, in terms of cultural development, it was virtually a necessity for human society to reproduce at the earliest feasible age because of the length of the average lifespan, you're imposing sort of a perverted individual philosophical standard on a debate you don't seem to understand, mainly concerning individual responsibility and freedom.
 
OGtruthhurts said:
so it looks like the age of consent in most states is 16. is a 16 yr old that much more 'mature' of consenting than a 14 yr old? than a 12 yr old?

am i reading that right? the politicians that you elect think 16 is just fine. all you judgmental holier than thou freaks must agree 16 is just fine for your daughters to be sexually legal over and over again with snot nosed 16 yr olds or with 'perverted' 70 yr olds......let that sink in while praising your party.
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But many states (at least a dozen) have Romeo and Juliet laws so that 16 and/or 17 is not really the age of consent if there is more than a 4-5 year difference in ages.

And federal age of consent is 18.
 
OGtruthhurts said:
so it looks like the age of consent in most states is 16. is a 16 yr old that much more 'mature' of consenting than a 14 yr old? than a 12 yr old?

am i reading that right? the politicians that you elect think 16 is just fine. all you judgmental holier than thou freaks must agree 16 is just fine for your daughters to be sexually legal over and over again with snot nosed 16 yr olds or with 'perverted' 70 yr olds......let that sink in while praising your party.
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I think a lot of the younger consent statutes persist because a 2-3 year age difference for couples in HS isn’t unusual.
 
BlooVooDoo said:
These things make more sense if the DoJ is talking to Maxwell about a deal to exonerate Trump in exchange for a pardon.
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Deviously clever pushback against the demand for Epstein files. Dems keep forgetting that Trump’s superpower is that he has no ethics, morals or respect for the law.

I suspect most people would see through a deal where Trump and Dersh are exonerated by Maxwell but she implicates Trump’s adversaries. But MAGA would probably eat it up.

the usual suspects GIF
 
nycfan said:
No, she is going to claim he was innocent. That’s her path to freedom.
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That would be hilarious is she got a sentence reduction for “exonerating” Trump. In 20 years of doing criminal defense work and representing many cooperating defendants in federal cases, I have never once seen or heard of a defendant getting their sentence reduced for exonerating someone via their cooperation.
 
nycfan said:
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Once Maxwell testifies in a manner favorable to St. Donald of Mar-a-Lago, her life expectancy can be measured with an egg timer. I can hear her interrogators now, "That's perfect, now don't say another word." And the truth of those words will have a deadly sincerity. The only thing keeping Maxwell alive is the possibility of her providing exculupatory testimony favorable to St. Donalfmof Mar-a-Lago. Once that happens, it's "lights out." But on the other hand, once St. Donald is convinced she will not give him the exculpatory testimony he wants, then that is a "lights out" scenario also.

ETA: There are evil, vicious forces in this world who still view St. Donald as a useful tool. These forces have neither love, pity, nor need for the American people beyond what financial wealth they can extract from us before they discard our empty, drained husks of bodies in some ditch on the side of the road.
 
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theel4life said:
If Trump gets away with this shit I am done with politics.
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You might as well be done. This is definitely not going to hurt Trump personally or politically- never was, in fact. The best case scenario is that it hurts down ballot candidates next November. But nobody should labor under the delusion that whatever this scandal is will materially affect Donald Trump.
 


AND/OR, GOP leadership in the House and Senate put the kibosh on this kind of revenge politics until the got their tax bill done, and now their caucus is free to let their particular conspiracy freak flags fly.
 
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