Epstein Files | WSJ releases 50th bday letter from Trump to Epstein

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Trump’s lawsuit against Wall Street Journal now has a judge — and it’s not Aileen Cannon​

The Obama appointee made history as the first openly gay Black man appointed to the federal bench.


“… Trump sued Cohen in April 2023 seeking a $500 million payout for claims that [Michael] Cohen violated his attorney-client relationship with Trump and enriched himself off their relationship. Six months later, Trump abandoned the lawsuit, just before Cohen’s lawyers were set to question him under oath.…”
 
1moretimeagain said:
Don Jr didn’t share polling data. He was the one who had a meeting with Russians for the expressed purpose of having Russia help the Trump campaign.

It was the longtime political consultant in Russia and Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort who shared polling data with Russia.
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Ok. Whoever it was, I'm still not sure what Russia would be able to do with polling data.
 
ZenMode said:
Ok. Whoever it was, I'm still not sure what Russia would be able to do with polling data.
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Does it really matter what they would be able to do with it? If someone combines Miracle Grow and diesel fuel in an attempt to bomb a school, should we let them go because they happened to not make a bomb? Your chosen hill in this thing is that the Trump campaign didn't collude/coordinate/whatever with the Russians...that they were entirely passive recipients of unsolicited help. I think the fact that the campaign manager was sharing information back with a hostile foreign power sort of undercuts your stance there.
 
wmheel1287 said:
Does it really matter what they would be able to do with it? If someone combines Miracle Grow and diesel fuel in an attempt to bomb a school, should we let them go because they happened to not make a bomb? Your chosen hill in this thing is that the Trump campaign didn't collude/coordinate/whatever with the Russians...that they were entirely passive recipients of unsolicited help. I think the fact that the campaign manager was sharing information back with a hostile foreign power sort of undercuts your stance there.
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For the record, it's not my chosen hill. I'm only looking at the result of the investigation.

I was as anxious for the Mueller Report as anyone. A president/presidential candidate conspiring with Russia would be horrifying, if not depressing.
 
superrific said:
Who cares what you are sure of. Are you a state of the art election hacker? No. You have no idea what info they wanted or for why. For all you know, the polling data could have been used to calibrate some of their Facebook pulls/pushes.
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I will also point out that nothing being brought up wasn't already considered by Robert Mueller when he came to his conclusion about conspiracy.
 
Carolina Fever said:
Kind of weird that some Pubs want to block the release of info that in no way implicates Trump was a part of the Epstein sex trafficking and would totally exonerate him, even though no such info exists anyway.
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On the flip side, if the DOJ had solid evidence that Trump committed a sex crime for the last four years, I doesn’t seem likely they would have buried it. A slam dunk pedo case seems like it would be easier to pursue than the indictments they did obtain.

If Trump is all over the files, it seems more likely to be unproven / unprovable (?) allegations, hearsay and embarrassing but not (prosecutable) criminal behavior.

I’m interested in the political story but I’ve never bought some grand, bipartisan conspiracy … or the left wing conspiracy about Mossad/CIA connections.

That said, the follow the money questions that Wyden is pressing do interest me quite a bit more. Would love more details about how Epstein became a math teacher at Dalton despite having no college degree, then went on to a job at Bear Stearns and eventually become a super wealthy advisor to mega-wealthy and powerful individuals. (He was eventually let go by Dalton and then Bear Stearns)
 
Anyway, I think this 2019 story is the primary basis of the intel connection conspiracy theories (and what Thomas Massie has been alluding to):

“… Epstein’s name, I was told, had been raised by the Trump transition team when Alexander Acosta, the former U.S. attorney in Miami who’d infamously cut Epstein a non-prosecution plea deal back in 2007, was being interviewed for the job of labor secretary. The plea deal put a hard stop to a separate federal investigation of alleged sex crimes with minors and trafficking.

“Is the Epstein case going to cause a problem [for confirmation hearings]?” Acosta had been asked.

Acosta had explained, breezily, apparently, that back in the day he’d had just one meeting on the Epstein case. He’d cut the non-prosecution deal with one of Epstein’s attorneys because he had “been told” to back off, that Epstein was above his pay grade.

“I was told Epstein ‘belonged to intelligence’ and to leave it alone,” he told his interviewers in the Trump transition, who evidently thought that was a sufficient answer and went ahead and hired Acosta. (The Labor Department had no comment when asked about this.) …

… After the one meeting with then-U.S. Attorney Acosta, where presumably “intelligence” was mentioned, the indictment was shelved and, instead, Epstein signed a non-prosecution agreement with federal prosecutors, pleading guilty to one count of solicitation of prostitution and one count of procurement of minors for prostitution, which earned him a cushy 13 months in county jail, from where he was allowed to leave to work at his office and go for walks.

The deal granted immunity to “any potential co-conspirators.” Most significantly, federal prosecutors agreed to keep the deal secret from Epstein’s victims, which meant they would not know to challenge it in court. As it turned out, this actually broke the law, because victims have a right to know of such developments, under the Crime Victims’ Rights Act.…”

www.thedailybeast.com

Jeffrey Epstein’s Sick Story Played Out for Years in Plain Sight

How did the New York financier stay nearly untouchable for decades? Vicky Ward—who has reported extensively on Epstein, and on efforts to rehabilitate him—finds out what’s changed.
www.thedailybeast.com www.thedailybeast.com
 
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