Epstein "stole people" who worked for Trump

Ramrouser said:
Let's get this out of the way: If it can be proven that Trump is an actual pedophile then all bets are off. No one supports that.

The problem is that there's zero proof for that assertion and no one believes this outside the hard core, Trump hating, left, i.e. this Board. You can't cite things Trump said on Stern 15 years ago about Ivanka as "proof" that he's a living breathing pedophile as opposed to a guy saying something creepy on a shock jock's radio show.
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Oh for fuck's sake the Orange Turd has an entire body of work that might not "prove" he's a pedophile but (a) he's definitely pedo adjacent and either way (b) completely unfit to dog-sit for the weekend, much less be in charge of the free world. To suggest that "no one believes" that he is a perv outside the "Trump hating left" (I'm FAR from left) indicates you really are committed to the cult.
 
heelwithnoname said:
Oh for fuck's sake the Orange Turd has an entire body of work that might not "prove" he's a pedophile but (a) he's definitely pedo adjacent and either way (b) completely unfit to dog-sit for the weekend, much less be in charge of the free world. To suggest that "no one believes" that he is a perv outside the "Trump hating left" (I'm FAR from left) indicates you really are committed to the cult.
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Right. Exactly this. For goodness sake, there was a funny picture of Joe Biden that used to make the rounds where he appeared to be sniffing a little girl's hair, and the entire right wing was cocksure he was Pedo Joe running the whole Deep State pedophile ring.

Like you, I'm far from the "Trump-hating left." Hell, I'm far from "left." But it doesn't take a hardcore lefty to be suspicious when, you know, the whole entire thing on which Trump campaigned was draining the swamp and releasing the Epstein files and locking up the pedophiles and now......the files don't exist! But they were created by Obama! But they don't actually exist! But someone made them up to make Trump look bad! But they never existed in the first place!

Only a dyed-in-the-wool moron would believe that there isn't smoke that needs to be investigated.
 
heelwithnoname said:
And given his track record, 100% the only reason he stopped associating with Epstein is because of some sort of transaction. Has zero to do with Epstein's character.
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Of course, but whatever he saying now is an attempt to spin. Even if this story is a bit hairy, he’d clearly rather this be the story than searching for the details… and this is the one that he wants to proliferate and is prepared to fight.

He clearly just made this up… or he would’ve said this a long time ago.

As you see in this thread, only willing cult type followers are looking at his statements. They know this is bs, but want something to believe.

We know the character of both guys and their friendship…and Trump is clearly trying to cover up and prepare is naives not to believe what they are going to see.

This is not worth entertaining…what did he do with Epstein and what have they done to try to cover it?
 
I just want to be clear that, yes, I hate Donald Trump, and yes, I think he is a vile and nasty person unfit in every way to be the President of the United States of America. But I absolutely, positively do not want it be true that he was a child rapist. I hope like hell it's not true. I hope it turns out to be a ton of smoke but no fire. It would give me zero pleasure for the person who has been elected not once, but twice, to the most important position in the world, to have been a child rapist. I would much, much rather just have unequivocal policy disagreements, and disagreements on character/morals/ethics with Trump, than for him to have been some child molester.
 
CFordUNC said:


Lolololol
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These people really are truly insane, and have lost all touch with reality. If Hillary and Obama were arrested and executed by Trumpers there is no doubt that people like her would be ecstatic and would honestly think that justice had been served. Meanwhile she gives a total pass to Dear Leader.
 
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Their falling out, Trump said, happened about 15 years ago — several years before Epstein’s conviction on a prostitution solicitation charge.
Trump has not said why their relationship ruptured. “The reason doesn’t make any difference, frankly,” the president said. WAPO five years ago


So their contact pretty much ended after the 2004 Real Estate deal. And in 2019 when Trump made the statement that the reason for ending his relationship with Epstein "doesn't make any difference" is an odd thing to say if it was about Epstein being a pervert.
 
Ramrouser said:
Let's get this out of the way: If it can be proven that Trump is an actual pedophile then all bets are off. No one supports that.

The problem is that there's zero proof for that assertion and no one believes this outside the hard core, Trump hating, left, i.e. this Board. You can't cite things Trump said on Stern 15 years ago about Ivanka as "proof" that he's a living breathing pedophile as opposed to a guy saying something creepy on a shock jock's radio show.
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Would you ever make jokes about fucking your own daughter?
 
CFordUNC said:
The whole entire thing on which Trump campaigned was draining the swamp and releasing the Epstein files and locking up the pedophiles
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Link?

Trump did not campaign on releasing the Epstein files. He campaigned on closing the border, mass deportations, tariffs, extending the 2017 tax cuts -- including overtime and tips, and not touching Medicaid. So 4 for 5.

I think there were two interviews during the campaign in which he halfheartedly suggested some interest in releasing the Epstein files. And of course his lackeys promoted the idea. But it was not a large part of Trump's overt campaigning.
 
Saying Epstein "stole" someone who was sex trafficked -- as if she were a piece of meat that could be bought and sold -- is not the best word choice for Trump.
 
Calheel said:
Link?

Trump did not campaign on releasing the Epstein files. He campaigned on closing the border, mass deportations, tariffs, extending the 2017 tax cuts -- including overtime and tips, and not touching Medicaid. So 4 for 5.

I think there were two interviews during the campaign in which he halfheartedly suggested some interest in releasing the Epstein files. And of course his lackeys promoted the idea. But it certainly was not a large part of Trump's overt campaigning.
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Ah gotcha, I'll definitely take your word for it over mine!

Regardless, though, it is definitely true that one of the primary pillars upon which the entire MAGA movement is predicated is that Donald Trump is some super duper benevolent fighter of Deep State Democratic pedophiles and that he was going to bring to light their identities and their crimes and rid the world of these dastardly baby-blood drinking child sex traffickers.
 
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