EXIT POLLS & TURNOUT DATA - The Red Shift

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Islay single malts are definitely my favorite scotch although I'll not turn up my nose at MaCallan, Glen Morangie, Dalwhinnie and a number of others. Hell, my favorite single malt for the money is Highland Park.
 
finesse said:
I used to drink quite a bit of Famous Grouse so I'm not averse to blended. It just got to the point where the price points on excellent bourbon were better than on good blended scotch and I made the switch. I'll drink almost any decent whiskey although ,for some reason, I pay a much heavier price for drinking Irish the next day.
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mirrors my journey with this fine drug.
 
finesse said:
Islay single malts are definitely my favorite scotch although I'll not turn up my nose at MaCallan, Glen Morangie, Dalwhinnie and a number of others. Hell, my favorite single malt for the money is Highland Park.
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What are your thought on Oban's? Was in Oban last spring to catch a ferry and I tried an 18 year old just before hoping on, and it was an outstanding single malt. Horrible whether that morning and it was just perfect right after lunch.
 
Batt Boy said:
What are your thought on Oban's? Was in Oban last spring to catch a ferry and I tried an 18 year old just before hoping on, and it was an outstanding single malt. Horrible whether that morning and it was just perfect right after lunch.
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I've had it a time or two and thought it was good but nothing made me want to buy it ahead of a dozen others.
 
Good lord, there's barely been a post in this thread in week, it's not like this is hijacking some intense conversation about the OP...
 
A few months ago or so the ABC stores here had a sale on Famous Grouse Smokey Black half gallon. Bought one and wished I bought more. Haven't even seen it in stores since. Nearly as good as many single malts.
 
So 10% of the latino-heavy precincts (30% Latino) picked a pres but not a senator?

And of those who did pick a senator a large number were split-ticketers?

 
Not a good trend in California. I understand, Democrats under performed in New York House Districts.

Guess this thread proves there has been a red shift. Democrats will have to address this. The 2026 election will be about retaking the House rather then the Senate. Not sure how Democrats can refresh the Party's image when dealing with gerrymandered district factors.
 
BlueSmoke said:
Not a good trend in California. I understand, Democrats under performed in New York House Districts.

Guess this thread proves there has been a red shift. Democrats will have to address this. The 2026 election will be about retaking the House rather then the Senate. Not sure how Democrats can refresh the Party's image when dealing with gerrymandered district factors.
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If Trump does what we think he will do, the Senate will flip so long as elections are free and fair.
 
superrific said:
If Trump does what we think he will do, the Senate will flip so long as elections are free and fair.
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LOL, well afraid you are correct that Trump will do what we think he will do. Guess I didn't factor that one.

Just last time I looked, looked like slim pickings on potential Senate pickups. And pretty sure Georgia will flip back to the GOP.
 
BlueSmoke said:
LOL, well afraid you are correct that Trump will do what we think he will do. Guess I didn't factor that one.

Just last time I looked, looked like slim pickings on potential Senate pickups. And pretty sure Georgia will flip back to the GOP.
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If there's 10% unemployment and 9% inflation and shelves are bare, I have my doubts that Georgia will flip. Wisconsin will. NC will. And other states that seem out of reach will be in play in that scenario.
 
BlueSmoke said:
Not a good trend in California. I understand, Democrats under performed in New York House Districts.

Guess this thread proves there has been a red shift. Democrats will have to address this. The 2026 election will be about retaking the House rather then the Senate. Not sure how Democrats can refresh the Party's image when dealing with gerrymandered district factors.
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I don't know - judging from the California chart there was less of a red shift than Democrats just not showing up. And that seems to have been the story of the election. It's not that Trump got more votes - his total increased from 74 million to 77 million - it's that Kamala lost over 6 million votes from Biden's 2020 total. The real issue, imo, wasn't so much a red shift as Democrats just not turning out. That's what Democrats need to work on - how to fire up their base and get them out to vote. Of course Trump 2.0 may take care of that problem if they screw up enough, which seems likely given the (mostly) clown show he's appointing to his cabinet and as agency heads.
 
Mulberry Heel said:
I don't know - judging from the California chart there was less of a red shift than Democrats just not showing up. And that seems to have been the story of the election. It's not that Trump got more votes - his total increased from 74 million to 77 million - it's that Kamala lost over 6 million votes from Biden's 2020 total. The real issue, imo, wasn't so much a red shift as Democrats just not turning out. That's what Democrats need to work on - how to fire up their base and get them out to vote. Of course Trump 2.0 may take care of that problem if they screw up enough, which seems likely given the (mostly) clown show he's appointing to his cabinet and as agency heads.
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Democrats don't need to get people to turn out in New York, New Jersey and California, which accounts for the bulk of the 6 million delta between Kamala and Joe. They need people to turn out in MiWisPaAzGaNevNC
 
In 2028, maybe the Dems should hold an open, competitive primary to allow their voters to choose a candidate vs the Obama gang selecting their candidate. But this hasn’t occurred since 2008 so they’re out of practice.
 
That's a good trend. It would have likely been 10 out of 10 if California hadn't still been counting its votes one month after the election.
 
BlueSmoke said:
Not a good trend in California. I understand, Democrats under performed in New York House Districts.

Guess this thread proves there has been a red shift. Democrats will have to address this. The 2026 election will be about retaking the House rather then the Senate. Not sure how Democrats can refresh the Party's image when dealing with gerrymandered district factors.
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The first step for Democrats is admitting they have a problem.
 
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