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Mulberry Heel said:
Yep. The Trump administration (and Republican Party in general) has been waging a war on the very notion of experts, expertise, the importance of experience and training, credentials, etc. The only "qualifications" Trump cares about are how willing they are to constantly kiss his ass, flatter him relentlessly, and obey his every whim, no matter how crazy or contradictory. If Hegseth is forced to step down Trump will likely do just what you said - get another Fox News or right-wing celebrity with no actual training or experience for the job to take the post. What will be interesting is seeing how Republican Senators justify and twist themselves into pretzels to vote for his next nominee for the post.
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Expertise gets in the way of Alternative Facts and Alternative Realities.
 


From that NYT article linked above in this thread:

“… The battles that have roiled Mr. Hegseth’s inner office, though, have focused more on often petty bureaucratic disputes than policy issues, said current and former defense officials. Staff members have complained that meetings overseen by Mr. Hegseth’s handpicked chief of staff, Joe Kasper, meander or take pointlessly bawdy turns. [UPDATE - Kaspar is being reassigned]

One meeting Mr. Kasper led this month, with a group that works with veterans that was offering its services to the Pentagon, devolved into a recounting of an evening Mr. Kasper and a representative of the group spent at a Washington strip club, said a person who took part in the session.

… In late January, Mr. Trump issued an executive order calling for the fielding and deployment of a missile shield to protect the United States from attacks by adversaries such as North Korea and Iran. At the White House’s urging, Pentagon officials scrambled over the course of a few days to put together a “package” directing the Pentagon’s vast bureaucracy to begin moving forward on the complex project.

The document sat unsigned in the defense secretary’s office for nearly three weeks while White House officials called almost daily to check on its status, current and former defense officials said. …”
 
nycfan said:


From that NYT article linked above in this thread:

“… The battles that have roiled Mr. Hegseth’s inner office, though, have focused more on often petty bureaucratic disputes than policy issues, said current and former defense officials. Staff members have complained that meetings overseen by Mr. Hegseth’s handpicked chief of staff, Joe Kasper, meander or take pointlessly bawdy turns. [UPDATE - Kaspar is being reassigned]

One meeting Mr. Kasper led this month, with a group that works with veterans that was offering its services to the Pentagon, devolved into a recounting of an evening Mr. Kasper and a representative of the group spent at a Washington strip club, said a person who took part in the session.

… In late January, Mr. Trump issued an executive order calling for the fielding and deployment of a missile shield to protect the United States from attacks by adversaries such as North Korea and Iran. At the White House’s urging, Pentagon officials scrambled over the course of a few days to put together a “package” directing the Pentagon’s vast bureaucracy to begin moving forward on the complex project.

The document sat unsigned in the defense secretary’s office for nearly three weeks while White House officials called almost daily to check on its status, current and former defense officials said. …”
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Honestly, not taking action on a deeply stupid directive is probably the best thing he's done, even if he only did it entirely through incompetence.
 
nycfan said:


From that NYT article linked above in this thread:

“… The battles that have roiled Mr. Hegseth’s inner office, though, have focused more on often petty bureaucratic disputes than policy issues, said current and former defense officials. Staff members have complained that meetings overseen by Mr. Hegseth’s handpicked chief of staff, Joe Kasper, meander or take pointlessly bawdy turns. [UPDATE - Kaspar is being reassigned]

One meeting Mr. Kasper led this month, with a group that works with veterans that was offering its services to the Pentagon, devolved into a recounting of an evening Mr. Kasper and a representative of the group spent at a Washington strip club, said a person who took part in the session.

… In late January, Mr. Trump issued an executive order calling for the fielding and deployment of a missile shield to protect the United States from attacks by adversaries such as North Korea and Iran. At the White House’s urging, Pentagon officials scrambled over the course of a few days to put together a “package” directing the Pentagon’s vast bureaucracy to begin moving forward on the complex project.

The document sat unsigned in the defense secretary’s office for nearly three weeks while White House officials called almost daily to check on its status, current and former defense officials said. …”
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say war plans one more time, pete.

pulp fiction drinking GIF
 
ZenMode said:
The clock has to be ticking on Hegseth. He's literally drowning in this role.
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Horrible leadership. not just the wrong person but so focused on loyalist and sticking into the lips that he's willing to have a national security threat.

That's too many of you guys voted for... and whether it gets exposed or not, there's a lot more people without the character, leadership capability, experience/expertise to do their jobs. But I guess, Trump can sympathize.

I don't get it...even if you agree(in theory) with a few of their hot button issues.
 
Geisterfahrer said:
What’s sad to me is Fox will hire this jackass back in a heartbeat once he gets shitcanned.
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Fox News has always - from its very beginnings - been nothing but a propaganda arm of the Murdochs and the Republican Party, but it is clear that, even more than in his first term, Fox is also now the official state media organ of Trump 2.0. They don't cover and report on the Trump administration, they parrot and amplify its talking points, attack his critics, and blow smoke 24/7 about the glorious success that is Trump 2.0. And they also provide some of their leading talking head, blowhard "talent" to the Trump administration. They'll likely take Hegseth back in a heartbeat with no mention of why he got fired/let go, and no doubt Trump will hire other talking heads from his favorite state news organ for other sensitive posts in the federal government, no matter how totally unqualified or incompetent or scandal-ridden they are.
 
Mundial said:
How does the military/national security agencies ensure that he does not disclose sensitive information going forward? Does a fired SECDEF sign an NDA?
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All employees with access to classify information, possibly with the exception of Trump, sign an NDA. There are also significant civil and criminal penalties for disclosing classified information even after terminating employment with the government, again, except for Trump.
 
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