👀 Waltz, SecDef SignalGate | Hegseth copies wife, lawyer on second Signal thread

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How does the military/national security agencies ensure that he does not disclose sensitive information going forward? Does a fired SECDEF sign an NDA?
All employees with access to classify information, possibly with the exception of Trump, sign an NDA. There are also significant civil and criminal penalties for disclosing classified information even after terminating employment with the government, again, except for Trump.
 
All employees with access to classify information, possibly with the exception of Trump, sign an NDA. There are also significant civil and criminal penalties for disclosing classified information even after terminating employment with the government, again, except for Trump.
So in the case of a former SECDEF with substance abuse problems, the thought is that we can rely on traditional legal documents and that he will abide by them.
 
So in the case of a former SECDEF with substance abuse problems, the thought is that we can rely on traditional legal documents and that he will abide by them.
Are you proposing an alternative to the traditional legal pathways?

He is not the first former government employee with access to classified documents that has a substance abuse problem. The traditional legal remedies work way more often than they don't. But if you have another idea, feel free to propose it and let's discuss the merits.
 


When President Donald Trump chose Pete Hegseth for Defense secretary, incoming officials knew they’d need to surround the inexperienced Fox News host with accomplished staff who could handle the nation’s largest bureaucracy. Hegseth would be the show horse, they figured, and others at the top would keep the Pentagon on track.

What happened was the opposite. Hegseth surrounded himself with advisers who quickly turned into vicious rivals for power — whose bitter brawl has now unraveled into revenge power plays, surprise firings, accusations of leaking and embarrassing headlines that are blowing up the Pentagon, distracting from Trump’s agenda and possibly jeopardizing Hegseth’s job.

Many administration feuds are driven by ideological or factional differences, splitting old-school conservatives from MAGA headliners and “America First” activists. That does not appear to be the case here: This one is all about personality conflict, according to interviews with nine current and former Defense Department officials as well as others close to the feud, granted anonymity to discuss a sensitive political issue. Hegseth’s closest advisers privately jockeyed for influence, creating festering distrust and gamesmanship that has rocked the world’s premier defense agency.





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At the center was Joe Kasper, Hegseth’s departing chief of staff, who people familiar with the matter said created a toxic workplace culture and played an instrumental role last week in pushing out three top Pentagon officials. Those firings, they said, were an attempt to consolidate power. Kasper denied inappropriate behavior or having anything to do with the dismissals.

On the other side were the fired employees, trusted Hegseth allies. Those staffers senior adviser Dan Caldwell, deputy chief of staff Darin Selnick and Colin Carroll, chief of staff to the deputy Defense secretary — were considered Hegseth’s closest advisers and maintain their innocence.

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A longtime aide and friend of indicted Rep. Duncan Hunter, Kasper was helping oversee his office when a series of scandals roiled the California Republican’s office. These included allegations that Hunter regularly drank heavily while serving in Congress. Investigators also inquired about relations he had with a young woman working in his office. He was eventually sentenced to 11 months in prison for misusing taxpayers funds. (He was pardoned by Trump in 2020.)


Kasper would later work at the Department of Homeland Security, the Navy and the Air Force in the first Trump administration and as a lobbyist. But critics say he quickly ran into trouble with his new job at the Pentagon.

He was often late to meetings and developed a reputation for dropping the ball on critical tasks with little follow-up, according to three people who witnessed his behavior. Another person familiar with his management said he “lacked the focus and organizational skills needed to get things done.”

While some who know him say he was fun and charming, three of the people said he frequently berated officials in meetings and repeatedly referred to military officials by a lower rank.

And at times, Kasper’s detractors say his leadership seemed almost juvenile. He graphically described his bowel movements to colleagues in one high-level meeting, according to two people who were in the meetings.


During that meeting, “he turned [and] he goes, ‘Can I just tell everyone around this table that I just took an enormous shit right before coming in here?’” according to two people who were present.

“People were like, ‘what? Like, this is a business meeting,’” the official said.
 
Are you proposing an alternative to the traditional legal pathways?

He is not the first former government employee with access to classified documents that has a substance abuse problem. The traditional legal remedies work way more often than they don't. But if you have another idea, feel free to propose it and let's discuss the merits.
What do you propose GT?
 


Honestly the weirdest thing about this story is that Hegseth’s wife signed off on the plan. Otherwise frankly a nothingburger other than reinforcing the cosplay component of his warrior culture ethos.
 


Honestly the weirdest thing about this story is that Hegseth’s wife signed off on the plan. Otherwise frankly a nothingburger other than reinforcing the cosplay component of his warrior culture ethos.

 
Some guys really can't function without their wives.

They are usually the guys who thump their chests most loudly. You know, shit about warrior ethos and all that.
 
Some guys really can't function without their wives.

They are usually the guys who thump their chests most loudly. You know, shit about warrior ethos and all that.
Or maybe she doesn’t trust him and the women he’s around, given her personal experience and all that.
 

"We should have installed tampon machines in every men's restroom in the DoD instead - the Leftist media would have loved that!" is peak trolling behavior. This guy clearly is, and has always been, nothing more than a right-wing troll - first on Fox "News", and now at the Pentagon. And what he's learning, along with everyone else, is that the Pentagon and Defense Department is no place for blowhards who are nothing more than trolls and talking heads. You actually need some serious administrative experience, brains, and a sense of reality (among other things) to handle that job.

I do think Hegseth's days as Defense Secretary are numbered because there are going to be more scandals and the embarrassing leaks are never going to stop because clearly too many people in the Pentagon despise him to stop the leaks. And of course Trump has no loyalty to anyone, so he'll drop him like a hot potato when he gets the chance. Probably the only thing saving him right now is that for Trump to let him go now would be seen as a public embarrassment for him, which he'll never let happen. Once some time has passed and things die down a little Hegseth will likely be out. The problem is that Trump will simply hire another incompetent, deranged minion and nutcase to replace him - maybe another of his favorite Fox talking heads, or even a Newsmax or OAN blowhard.
 
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