👀 Waltz, SecDef SignalGate | Signalgate 2.0 Oct 2025

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“… The statements by Hegseth, Gabbard, Ratcliffe, and Trump—combined with the assertions made by numerous administration officials that we are lying about the content of the Signal texts—have led us to believe that people should see the texts in order to reach their own conclusions. There is a clear public interest in disclosing the sort of information that Trump advisers included in nonsecure communications channels, especially because senior administration figures are attempting to downplay the significance of the messages that were shared. …

… Late yesterday, White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt emailed a response: “As we have repeatedly stated, there was no classified information transmitted in the group chat. However, as the CIA Director and National Security Advisor have both expressed today, that does not mean we encourage the release of the conversation. This was intended to be a an [sic] internal and private deliberation amongst high-level senior staff and sensitive information was discussed. So for those reason [sic] — yes, we object to the release.” (The Leavitt statement did not address which elements of the texts the White House considered sensitive, or how, more than a week after the initial air strikes, their publication could have bearing on national security.) …

… A CIA spokesperson asked us to withhold the name of John Ratcliffe’s chief of staff, which Ratcliffe had shared in the Signal chain, because CIA intelligence officers are traditionally not publicly identified. Ratcliffe had testified earlier yesterday that the officer is not undercover and said it was “completely appropriate” to share their name in the Signal conversation.

We will continue to withhold the name of the officer. Otherwise, the messages are unredacted. …”
 
At 11:44 a.m. eastern time, Hegseth posted in the chat, in all caps, “TEAM UPDATE:”

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“…Let us pause here for a moment to underscore a point. This Signal message shows that the U.S. secretary of defense texted a group that included a phone number unknown to him—Goldberg’s cellphone—at 11:44 a.m. This was 31 minutes before the first U.S. warplanes launched, and two hours and one minute before the beginning of a period in which a primary target, the Houthi “Target Terrorist,” was expected to be killed by these American aircraft. If this text had been received by someone hostile to American interests—or someone merely indiscreet, and with access to social media—the Houthis would have had time to prepare for what was meant to be a surprise attack on their strongholds. The consequences for American pilots could have been catastrophic. …”
 
Well, it likely cost Hillary Clinton the 2016 election.
True. Had Comey actually followed through with some kind of prosecution, we may not have Trump storing boxes of classified docs in his bathroom and now this.
 
True. Had Comey actually followed through with some kind of prosecution, we may not have Trump storing boxes of classified docs in his bathroom and now this.
lol. yeah, Trump is definitely the kind of guy who would follow the law if it wasn’t for those dastardly Democrats! He was such a law-abiding citizen his entire life until those damn Democrats got away with proverbial murder!

Come on, man. Your schtick lately is getting stale.
 


“… “I just talked to Elon on the way here. We have the best technical minds looking at how this happened,” the group’s creator, Mike Waltz, told Fox News on Tuesday.

… In 2023, a Pentagon memo warned against using Signal and other mobile for any nonpublic, official information, NPR reported.

On March 18, an agency-wide email repeated that Signal shouldn’t be used even for non-classified communications because Russian hackers were using the “linked devices” feature to spy on encrypted conversations. …”
 


“… “I just talked to Elon on the way here. We have the best technical minds looking at how this happened,” the group’s creator, Mike Waltz, told Fox News on Tuesday.

… In 2023, a Pentagon memo warned against using Signal and other mobile for any nonpublic, official information, NPR reported.

On March 18, an agency-wide email repeated that Signal shouldn’t be used even for non-classified communications because Russian hackers were using the “linked devices” feature to spy on encrypted conversations. …”

Seems like more of a job for (a) an FBI investigation and (b) an NSC/CIA/OIG review than an ad hoc third party review by 20-something temps.
 
One theory being floated about is that Waltz meant to add jamieson greer (also initials JG), but added Jeffrey Goldberg by mistake.
 
I regularly get reminder emails from my job that I could face consequences if I accidentally copy the wrong *internal* people on an email concerning sensitive clinical trial data. And I double check numbers when I’m sending a group chat to confirm dinner reservations with friends. But I guess a social faux pas is more serious than national security.

Anyways:

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Classified or not the app isn't FOIA compliant so it's illegal for them to be using in any government act

Ratcliffe: Signal was approved for communication use by Biden administration​


CIA Director John Ratcliffe maintained in a heated exchange before a Senate panel that his participation in a Signal group chat, which discussed attacking the Houthis, was above the books and completely legal.

"It is permissible to use to communicate and coordinate for work purposes provided, provided, senator, that any decisions made are also recorded through formal channels," Ratcliffe testified on Capitol Hill on Tuesday morning. "My communications, to be clear, in a single message group were entirely permissible and lawful and did not include classified information."

The CIA chief and other top national security officials showed down with the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence on Tuesday. Democrats grilled the Trump administration officials over their involvement in the secret group chat in which members discussed moving forward with a plan to attack the Yemen-based Houthis.

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"One of the first things that happened when I was confirmed as CIA director was Signal was loaded onto my computer at the CIA, as it is for most CIA officers," said Ratcliffe. "One of the things that I was briefed on very early, senator, was by the CIA records management folks about the use of Signal as a permissible work use. It is. That is a practice that preceded the current administration to the Biden administration."

 
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