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milom98
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I'm starting to worry that my eyes are going to get stuck in the back of my head if I keep rolling them as often and as hard as I have been lately. I mean, it was a concern before but now I'm convinced it's going to happen one day soon.
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In fairness, the head of the trade group would be objectively bad at his job if he said anything other than he still supports Trump.
If you're trying to get trade policy in your peeps' favor, don't broadcast that you oppose Trump. The new coin of the realm is flattery, the more obsequious the better.
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MAGA Suddenly Alarmed That Christians Might Be Subject To Trump's Deportation Program
Evangelical Trump supporters are suddenly concerned about the Trump administration's deportation policy because Latino Christians might become victims.
When a group of religious-right activists and Christian nationalists were invited to the White House to pray over President Donald Trump at in the Oval Office last month, they also sat down for a meeting with faith adviser Paula White and members of the White House Faith Office.
Among the topics discussed at the meeting, according to former Trump administration official and an ardent Christian nationalist William Wolfe, was conservative Christians' desire to see Trump carry out mass deportations.
Trump-loving right-wing pastor Jim Garlow was among those, along with Wolfe, who were invited to meet Trump and attend the meeting with Trump's faith advisers, but he does not seem to share Wolfe's desire to see mass deportations, at least if they involve Christians.
On Sunday's episode of his "World Prayer Network" podcast, Garlow brought on immigration attorney Esther Valdes Clayton to sound the alarm over the prospect that tens of thousands of Latino Christians could be forcibly deported from the United States because of the Trump administration's policies.
Valdes Clayton opened her remarks by working to reassure Garlow's conservative audience that these Latinos share their values.
"I just want to reassure everybody ... that Latinos love God," she said. "We have the same God. We have a monotheistic religion. Our tradition, our values; 97% of Latinos go to church. We believe in a male and female. No transgender. Our language is gendered. Everything ends in an O and an A, meaning that everything is masculine and feminine, and we go to church regularly."
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The idea of illegal Latinos and Hispanics coming here to ALWAYS vote for the Democrats was total BS. Those folks HATE the LGBTQ and they HATE abortion rights AND they're hardcore Christians - many are Catholic - and we know how strict that denomination is on those social issues. Those folks are always going to be automatic Religious right-wing voters, if and when they're eligible to vote legally. The concept of Hillary et.al. encouraging illegals to cross the southern border so they could "get their vote" was totally bogus and misguided. First of all, they can't/couldn't vote, as they weren't legal and registered to vote. And secondly, once they get "legal" and registered they're going to vote right wing because "reasons".
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This guy is arguing against the only thing trump is doing that even remotely resembles an economic plan, yet he still supports him. That racist deportation component must be a hell of an addictive drug.
Agree
. And the fact that the Dems allowed that narrative to root and grow without sufficiently quashing it is yet another example of why we’re in the mess we’re in today. Dem messaging is abysmal.
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ChapelHillSooner
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For many of them, their religious leaders have presented Trump as a special gift from God. To some he’s an imperfect vessel. To the truly delusional he is a nearly perfect person. In either case, they’ve allowed their religious beliefs to be so tied with Trump that it is almost impossible to ever admit that they were wrong about him without causing a crisis in their belief structure.
And for others they just can’t allow themselves to believe that the liberals might be right. That also goes back to the religious aspect as they can’t admit to themselves that the liberal churches were right about Trump.
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They understand that Santa and the Easter bunny are myth, yet they believe in a mythical being with no beginning and no end, that created the universe, implanted his son into a virgin human women. And on and on... they will believe anything and they are trained to believe in kings.
Of course they believe the con man is a diety, that's a story as old as civilization.
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a religious freak will never admit they are wrong. i warned my family at gatherings that jim and tammy faye bakker were nothing but fake greedy con artists. I was cast aside and almost stoned to death by them. when the shit hit the fan not one single apology from any of them. i rubbed it in their faces hardcore because thats just how i roll when i sense emotional weaknesses.
Don't be too hard on yourself.
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“And you stare at me in your Jesus Christ pose.”MAGA Suddenly Alarmed That Christians Might Be Subject To Trump's Deportation Program
Evangelical Trump supporters are suddenly concerned about the Trump administration's deportation policy because Latino Christians might become victims.www.peoplefor.org
When a group of religious-right activists and Christian nationalists were invited to the White House to pray over President Donald Trump at in the Oval Office last month, they also sat down for a meeting with faith adviser Paula White and members of the White House Faith Office.
Among the topics discussed at the meeting, according to former Trump administration official and an ardent Christian nationalist William Wolfe, was conservative Christians' desire to see Trump carry out mass deportations.
Trump-loving right-wing pastor Jim Garlow was among those, along with Wolfe, who were invited to meet Trump and attend the meeting with Trump's faith advisers, but he does not seem to share Wolfe's desire to see mass deportations, at least if they involve Christians.
On Sunday's episode of his "World Prayer Network" podcast, Garlow brought on immigration attorney Esther Valdes Clayton to sound the alarm over the prospect that tens of thousands of Latino Christians could be forcibly deported from the United States because of the Trump administration's policies.
Valdes Clayton opened her remarks by working to reassure Garlow's conservative audience that these Latinos share their values.
"I just want to reassure everybody ... that Latinos love God," she said. "We have the same God. We have a monotheistic religion. Our tradition, our values; 97% of Latinos go to church. We believe in a male and female. No transgender. Our language is gendered. Everything ends in an O and an A, meaning that everything is masculine and feminine, and we go to church regularly."
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exactly right.
the "migrant caravans" funded by the dems and soros and all of that nonsense was always just blatantly racist, fear-mongering fantasy.
but of course vanilla ISIS / Y'allQaeda buys it all hook, line and sinker.
there are some folks from honduras who live in my parents neighborhood who are a perfect example of this nonsense. they aren't citizens, i guess maybe they're green card holders? they STILL have a damn campaign sign in their yard with the attempted PA assassination photo and "vote republican, save america" on it.
absolute insanity. i hope they get deported.
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But yeah, definitely not a cult.
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I asked my brother if my mom would have been a MAGA. She died in her 60's in 2009. My brother was horrified I asked that question and said that my mom valued character way too much.
The reason I questioned it was because of the exact thing you mentioned. She would watch the Bakkers and seemed undeterred when we questioned their authenticity (before the scandal).
But I think my brother is correct. It is a stretch to go directly from them to Trump. My dad died Thanksgiving week in 2016. He hated Trump and was disgusted by his election. So my mom would have had that to counterweight any religious based impulse.
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I wonder if some of that is an attempt to please MAGA so that they won't get deported. It won't work but maybe worth a try.
That is why I am skeptical of some of the stories of people who voted for Trump and still support Trump after having a loved one deported. Some of them are certainly trying to bargain by saying that they still support Trump. "Please bring my spouse back. I am a Trump supporter!"
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i'm sure you're right about some people trying that strategy but not these folks.
the husband and sons work in construction together and my parents and some of our business partners and our church have used them for quite a few things.
they're right wing idiots. probably converted to maga by their white construction buddies. they all drive ridiculous jacked up trucks.
i genuinely hope that they FAFO.
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It's not Dems fault for not "quashing" ideas or narratives. I mean, how do you propose to do that exactly? Tell people it isn't true? How well has that worked in the past.Agree
We've been trying for a century to quash the ideas written into the "Elders of Zion" hoax, and we don't seem to be all that effective in doing so. We have neo-Nazis in the US. Hell, Germany has neo-Nazis, or their equivalent.
When people are motivated to believe something, especially when that thing absolves them of responsibility for their past decisions, it's hard to quash that.