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My first experience with divisions among Latinos was when I moved to in California, and workers in our distribution center were divided into Mexicans and Salvadorans who hated each other. They simply couldn’t or wouldn’t work with each other. They had sort of self-selected so the Mexicans worked in shipping and picking orders while the Salvadorans had congregated in packaging. There was a Nicaraguan woman in customer service who strongly felt she was above both of them.


About 20 years ago I participated in a study of a chicken processing plant in North Carolina that employed almost solely Guatemalans...but the management knew enough to hire Mexicans to be the managers and Puerto Ricans to manage the Mexicans (partially because those from the PR were perfectly bilingual and could, in turn, most easily communicate with the English-Only speaking higher ups). I also noted during that study that in the local soccer league (and this was 20 years ago when most were new to the US) tended to be divided up by nationality or even former hometown. Lots of the rivalries and conflict tended to surface in those contests on Saturday and Sunday but also old animosities were brought back up.

I remember even longer ago...say, the late 1980s, in Chapel Hill. I was tending bar around town in those days and was known as a guy who could speak Spanish (or at least in those days I thought that I could -- thankfully it has improved since). A CH Policeman that I knew came by where I worked to ask me some questions about a fight that had broken out in, of all places, La Terraza, one night when a Latin American music band had played. The bartenders there said that all seemed fine and the all of a sudden all hell broke loose...I asked around among some of the dishwashers that I knew (many from Mexico and Central America) and was told that some guys had entered the bar and soon realized that some of their old enemies -- from their youth back home -- were there. So the fight didn't really break out "all of a sudden" but had actually started years before.
 
I think that's probably true, but I don't remember ever hearing that it was any kind of requirement for group membership.
The apostle Paul used the division between the Pharisees (who believed in resurrection) and the Sadducees (who did not) to advantage when brought before the Sanhedrin for inquisition. Like Christianity, Judaism is not homogenous.
 
My understanding is that many (most ? ) Jews believe in an after life ( olam ha-ba ) but that good deeds in the here and now are what is most important.

In my experience, Reform Jews resemble mainline Protestants to the extent that both groups subscribe to a muted post-millenialism: the messiah arrives only after we work to make a suitable world for him. This post-millenialism is muted because Reform Jews and the 27 remaining mainline Protestants don't spend a whole lot of time thinking about messianism. The idea has been thoroughly secularized into the basic maxim to do good.
 
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Following the round of severe weather and tornadoes that the state of Arkansas was subjected to, Governor Sanders applied for Individual Assistance (IA) through the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA).

On April 11, the State of Arkansas was notified that their request was denied. Their request for Public Assistance (PA), however, is still being processed.


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Following the round of severe weather and tornadoes that the state of Arkansas was subjected to, Governor Sanders applied for Individual Assistance (IA) through the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA).

On April 11, the State of Arkansas was notified that their request was denied. Their request for Public Assistance (PA), however, is still being processed.


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Sounds like Musk's efforts are having the desired effects.
 
My first experience with divisions among Latinos was when I moved to in California, and workers in our distribution center were divided into Mexicans and Salvadorans who hated each other. They simply couldn’t or wouldn’t work with each other. They had sort of self-selected so the Mexicans worked in shipping and picking orders while the Salvadorans had congregated in packaging. There was a Nicaraguan woman in customer service who strongly felt she was above both of them.
lol'ing at the nica woman.

heard lots of bad things about nicaraguans from ticos when i lived in costa rica.
 
I feel bad for the kid, not so much for the Trump voting mother.

That's a tough one.

There's documented studies about isolation's negative affects.

It's also commendable that they adopted a child with so many challenges.

But she should have known trump doesn't give a fuck. He made fun of a reporter that had challenges.
 
That's a tough one.

There's documented studies about isolation's negative affects.

It's also commendable that they adopted a child with so many challenges.

But she should have known trump doesn't give a fuck. He made fun of a reporter that had challenges.
She says she’s a Christian. I bet her minister told her Trump’s a good Christian; in her mind and her church’s likely opinion, being a good Christian means opposing abortion and LGBTQ rights above all.
 
lol'ing at the nica woman.

heard lots of bad things about nicaraguans from ticos when i lived in costa rica.
Well, we have a nicaraguan tico here so tread lightly.

My guess is that Nicaraguans are the way they are in part because of the conditions in which they grew up: civil war, oppression, communism, more war, US meddling, etc.
 
She says she’s a Christian. I bet her minister told her Trump’s a good Christian; in her mind and her church’s likely opinion, being a good Christian means opposing abortion and LGBTQ rights above all.
My FIL is the same. Believes everything he's told in church, even when they are taking advantage of him and swindling him of his money.

He thought that trump was going to solve problems, he just had no details or knowledge of what or how.
 
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