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Wow, try to actually communicate with you and you can help but be a dick. Duly noted.

Yes they have sources from over the spectrum. There are other sources than fox news and OAN. that actually report the news instead of just opinions.

Ground News https://share.google/DWdmJBZRGDXDcMiqs

I also use the AP app and other sources.

But mostly I just read the news from any source other than fox.

So what liberal sources do you consume regularly?
I’m on record that I think you’re a good guy and father. I don’t hate Dems. I dislike leftist and terrorist loving anti Semites.
 
I’m on record that I think you’re a good guy and father. I don’t hate Dems. I dislike leftist and terrorist loving anti Semites.
I don't see myself as loyal to either party, that's why I use news services that help keep me from going down the rabbit hole.

I don't dislike anyone because of political positions. I try, thought I'm sure I fail, to respond to the topics and not the person.
 
I use an aggregate source that provides multiple sources for each story. It ranks the sources for their bias, so I can understand the different perspectives.

I recall a story about a family that was supposedly told to leave a far food restaurant because they had trump shirts on. It was very interesting how the same story was reported differently.
What is the aggregate source?
 
If you call yourself or your party SOCIALIST in the name of the party then I tend to believe it. Democratic Socialist = Mamdani. Great Leap Forward and Cultural Revolution = Mao. Year Zero = Pol Pot. Homeland or Death = Castro

Listen to what leftist call themselves.
How can you possibly be a lawyer? Either you are playing a character on this site, you are posting drunk, or you had someone else take your bar exam.
 
 
If you call yourself or your party SOCIALIST in the name of the party then I tend to believe it. Democratic Socialist = Mamdani. Great Leap Forward and Cultural Revolution = Mao. Year Zero = Pol Pot. Homeland or Death = Castro

Listen to what leftist call themselves.
I am actually impressed that somehow you keep digging this hole even deeper. Please for the love God learn something today.

I’m going to throw you a lifeline here and help you learn something interesting today. Go to your web browser on your favorite device. Type in www.google.com. In the search bar, type the phrase ‘was adolf hitler left wing or right wing’. Hit enter. Read and learn.

Oh, hell, I’m feeling charitable this morning. I’ll save you a few keystrokes!

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What on earth about Trump suggests he’s going to send troops on for

Atlantic
Guardian
NY Timed
Wash Post
MSNBC.
Are you saying that you read each of these daily?

I typically go to one of the aggregate sources then follow the stories that interest me. I don’t go specifically to MSNBC or Wall Street Journal, but I may end up there.

Being a lawyer, I'd imagine that you read faster than I do, so maybe you visit 10 sources a day. I typically visit about 3-4 then follow the stories to the primary sources.
 
Are you saying that you read each of these daily?

I typically go to one of the aggregate sources then follow the stories that interest me. I don’t go specifically to MSNBC or Wall Street Journal, but I may end up there.

Being a lawyer, I'd imagine that you read faster than I do, so maybe you visit 10 sources a day. I typically visit about 3-4 then follow the stories to the primary sources.
No. Typically, I'll use a short cut and go to a site like realclearpollitics.com which features articles from both sides, allowing me to read back to back articles on the same subject matter.
 
Are you saying that you read each of these daily?

I typically go to one of the aggregate sources then follow the stories that interest me. I don’t go specifically to MSNBC or Wall Street Journal, but I may end up there.

Being a lawyer, I'd imagine that you read faster than I do, so maybe you visit 10 sources a day. I typically visit about 3-4 then follow the stories to the primary sources.
It ain't how fast you read. It's how well you understand. Don't think you should worry about his reading speed. He's like the days you drive home and realize you don't remember a thing about the drive.
 
I am actually impressed that somehow you keep digging this hole even deeper. Please for the love God learn something today.

I’m going to throw you a lifeline here and help you learn something interesting today. Go to your web browser on your favorite device. Type in www.google.com. In the search bar, type the phrase ‘was adolf hitler left wing or right wing’. Hit enter. Read and learn.

Oh, hell, I’m feeling charitable this morning. I’ll save you a few keystrokes!

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I've been too simplistic re my comments on the NAZI party being a socialist party.

National Socialism was an alternative to Marxism and capitalism. The 1920 National Socialist Program - the "25 Points" - included demands such as the nationalization of industries, land reform and the abolition of unearned income.

Nazi socialism favored a technocratically- managed economy with the subordination of individual interests to the common good of the nation.

The Nazi government did not own the means of production, but it did exercise control over industries creating a managed economy.

The Nazi ideology also focused on the collective well being of the "German Volk" with a collectivists orientation - similar to socialism.

CLEARLY, Nazism evolved to essentially embodying the ideology and beliefs of one man and his Mein Kampf. That's where the German "living space" and hatred and extermination of the Jews moves to the front of the party's ideology. That's not really left or right ideology.

Bottom line is that Adolf Hitler's ideology is unique and a mixed bag unlike the Communists dictators I've listed.
 
I've been too simplistic re my comments on the NAZI party being a socialist party.

National Socialism was an alternative to Marxism and capitalism. The 1920 National Socialist Program - the "25 Points" - included demands such as the nationalization of industries, land reform and the abolition of unearned income.

Nazi socialism favored a technocratically- managed economy with the subordination of individual interests to the common good of the nation.

The Nazi government did not own the means of production, but it did exercise control over industries creating a managed economy.

The Nazi ideology also focused on the collective well being of the "German Volk" with a collectivists orientation - similar to socialism.

CLEARLY, Nazism evolved to essentially embodying the ideology and beliefs of one man and his Mein Kampf. That's where the German "living space" and hatred and extermination of the Jews moves to the front of the party's ideology. That's not really left or right ideology.

Bottom line is that Adolf Hitler's ideology is unique and a mixed bag unlike the Communists dictators I've listed.
True. The antisemitism has always been more about Christians of every ilk. What countries Jews weren't kicked out of generally persecuted them or circumscribed their rights. Review the origin of ghetto and beyond the pale.

They'd still feel the same way except for their association of the country of Israel with the phantasmagorical myths of the Second Coming. They still don't care about the Jews as anything but a road marker.
 
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No. Typically, I'll use a short cut and go to a site like realclearpollitics.com which features articles from both sides, allowing me to read back to back articles on the same subject matter.
So we basically do the same thing.

Not sure why you responded that I don't read conservative leaning news sources.
 
How can you possibly be a lawyer? Either you are playing a character on this site, you are posting drunk, or you had someone else take your bar exam.
I get your point and I agree… but if you’re a lawyer then it should be apparent that being a lawyer does not mean, ipso facto, that that person’s intellect or critical thinking should be respected.

There are some dumb f’ing people out there who are lawyers.
 
I get your point and I agree… but if you’re a lawyer then it should be apparent that being a lawyer does not mean, ipso facto, that that person’s intellect or critical thinking should be respected.

There are some dumb f’ing people out there who are lawyers.
Yes, there are plenty of dumb lawyers.

And there are plenty of conservative lawyers I know, including some Q-Anon and Q-Anon adjacent folks. But I have never met a lawyer who thinks Nazis were liberal because they had the word “socialist” in their name. That is simply uneducated. And even the dumb lawyers I know are not uneducated.

That is why I lean to a bit he is doing or posting under the influence.
 
I've been too simplistic re my comments on the NAZI party being a socialist party.

National Socialism was an alternative to Marxism and capitalism. The 1920 National Socialist Program - the "25 Points" - included demands such as the nationalization of industries, land reform and the abolition of unearned income.

Nazi socialism favored a technocratically- managed economy with the subordination of individual interests to the common good of the nation.

The Nazi government did not own the means of production, but it did exercise control over industries creating a managed economy.

The Nazi ideology also focused on the collective well being of the "German Volk" with a collectivists orientation - similar to socialism.

CLEARLY, Nazism evolved to essentially embodying the ideology and beliefs of one man and his Mein Kampf. That's where the German "living space" and hatred and extermination of the Jews moves to the front of the party's ideology. That's not really left or right ideology.

Bottom line is that Adolf Hitler's ideology is unique and a mixed bag unlike the Communists dictators I've listed.
Well, at least you did a bit of reading so I'll grant you that. But you're still pretty far off. I mean, there's a reason why there is tremendous agreement among scholars and historians on this topic.

1. For one thing, the "Volk" was not similar to socialism at all. It was the opposite. Marxism/communism was always considered to be a worldwide movement, across all cultures. That's why the communist anthem was called The Internationale. Socialism also had that same outlook (and same anthem) but to a slightly lesser degree.

Anyway, this difference accounts for the difference in militancy. The Soviets weren't actually interested in conquering for lebensraum. They were more likely to fund and assist in insurrectionary efforts, like Fidel's revolution and the establishment of a unified communist Vietnam. The Germans just invaded. The Soviets invaded Afghanistan for reasons that I don't understand, but obviously there was no domestic communist groups there to support.

2. The Soviets were not ethno-nationalists. In fact, they were quite the opposite: they rolled out the welcome mat for black people from America as well as colonized territories. Now, on the ground, there was racism because Europe had been fully racist for hundreds of years. But there was no idea anywhere in the Soviet ideology that some races or peoples were superior to others. Nor was there any idea that some people had to be expelled or kept out.

3. The Soviets did not have a murderous ideology. The gulag was for political dissidents and other enemies. It wasn't a concentration camp for all Jews.

4. Much of the Nazi party program was a rehash of various antisemitic ideas/grievances that had been floating around for a while. For instance, why do you think they opposed banking income? Because of the prominence of Jews in that business.

5. The Nazi ideology was wrapped up in the idea of a single leader who represented the will of the people. It was basically monarchy with a different grounding -- not divine right, but expression of the national will. Power was thought to bubble up, so to speak (not a historically accurate metaphor), from the German people but wielded in the singular figure of the Fuhrer.

There is no equivalent to that in any left wing thought I'm familiar with. For instance, Xi is not the ruler of China. He's the chairman of the Chinese Communist Party (you've probably heard of "Chairman Mao"). At various times and in various countries, that type of control has been more or less dictatorial, more or less subject to debate or disagreement. For instance, you probably don't know that Khrushchev repudiated Stalin, which would have been unthinkable in Nazi Germany. The transfer of power communist countries was never really familial until the fall of the USSR, except perhaps in minor outposts like North Korea.

And at the outset of communism in most countries, the early governments were meaningfully constrained "democratically." I put that in quotes because it wasn't a matter of voting, but it wasn't also not just one-man rule. For instance, the reason that Mao launched first the Hundred Flowers Movement and then Cultural Revolution was to purge the government of people loyal to communism rather than loyal to him. There was no such distinction in Nazi Germany.

It is not a close question whether fascism was left wing, right wing, or mixed. Every property that is a hallmark of right-wing thought was there in Nazism. The left has Stalin to answer for; y'all have Hitler. Difference is that we have rejected Stalin and you've embraced America's Hitler.
 
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