FEMA & Natural Disasters | FEMA reform or dissolution?

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Yosef said:
No it wasn't.
I have a house in the NC mountains that got flooded. 1 foot of water in my house.
Samaritan's Purse and Wine to Water both contacted me wanting to come help. We ended up getting help from Samaritan's Purse. We had double digit workers both days at my house. Each person spoke for a minute telling where they are from and why they were there. A majority came from Wisconsin and they said the only reason they were there was they heard there was a need.
Others came from Virginia and South Carolina and only a few were from NC.
Trump was correct in saying that others will come help. They will and they did.
Say what you want about Franklin Graham but his organization Samaritan's Purse is an amazing organization who are usually the first ones there in emergency response situations.
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The water rescue, urban search and rescue, and medical personnel that came from across the country were paid for, trained, and deployed by FEMA. FEMA put over 3,000 boots on the ground in Western North Carolina. That aid does not come without FEMA, and NC doesn’t have the personnel or resources to be able to meet that need on its own.
 
Callatoroy said:
If it would just get resources to a warehouse (like trump said in the video) and that ended their involvement then that would be an improvement. its the "coordinating" that becomes the problem. In the first disaster (Hugo) I went through, and participated in, I honestly don't remember fema's involvement. We did have thousands of people from multiple states, numerous charities, and numerous corporate volunteers and contributions involved. The cities of Charleston, N. Charleston, Mt. Pleasant, Hanahan, Summerville, etc. were fantastic, as was the state g'ment. Things moved rapidly. I don't think fema could have caused things to happen any faster. I was both impacted by it and a participant in the rebuilding process. Almost all g'ment red tape was sidelined for a period of time. Shit just flowed faster than I could have ever imagined and was caught off guard on the rebuilding side because I expected g'ment red tape to take longer. Effective governors have the ability to move mountains when they have the financial resources.
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A warehouse? Resources from where? Do you think that North Carolina should buy, staff, and maintain the equivalent of 15 state’s worth of rescue personnel and equipment on its own? And then the other 49 states should do the same thing? Do you have any idea how expensive and wasteful that would be?
 
I’ve spent several weeks in western NC since Helene hit. Yes, the FEMA response was massive and people were grateful that they were distributing food, water and medicine by days 3-4. It’s also true that many families found the aid application process very confusing and wholly inadequate. It’s also true that they just kind of left without communicating with anyone how to go about continuing benefits or cleanup work. Swannannoa still looks like a fucking war zone. Not exactly the picture of a competent and through response.
 
nrsair said:
I’ve spent several weeks in western NC. Yes, the FEMA response was massive and people were grateful that they were distributing food, water and medicine by days 3-4. It’s also true that many families found the aid application process very confusing and wholly inadequate. It’s also true that they just kind of left without communicating with anyone how to go about continuing benefits or cleanup work. Swannannoa still looks like a fucking war zone. Not exactly the picture of a competent and through response.
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Glad you were there Surely true that a big chunk of these folks found High School confusing also That is sad but true
 
ZZLPHeels said:
The water rescue, urban search and rescue, and medical personnel that came from across the country were paid for, trained, and deployed by FEMA. FEMA put over 3,000 boots on the ground in Western North Carolina. That aid does not come without FEMA, and NC doesn’t have the personnel or resources to be able to meet that need on its own.
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I've never said FEMA didn't have a part in this. Never. I only stated that the other 2 agencies reached out to me for help.
 
Yosef said:
I've never said FEMA didn't have a part in this. Never. I only stated that the other 2 agencies reached out to me for help.
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I don't believe you. The problem with being a chronic dumbass is that there's absolutely no reason to believe you. You have no reputation to protect.
 
superrific said:
I don't believe you. The problem with being a chronic dumbass is that there's absolutely no reason to believe you. You have no reputation to protect.
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I believe him. Samaritan’s Purse is based in Boone and so is Yosef. Plus, Samaritan’s Purse focus is on disasters (and those christmas shoe boxes) and they certainly aren’t going to be AWOL on their home turf.
 
Yosef said:
SP gives a special Bible to all those they help.
They also have the helpers sign it and write a comment in the front cover of the Bible. I'll take a pic of it and put it here if needed.
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You've got Calheel vouching for you and that's good enough for me.
 
Yosef said:
SP gives a special Bible to all those they help.
They also have the helpers sign it and write a comment in the front cover of the Bible. I'll take a pic of it and put it here if needed.
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Is their Bible the same as the one you can buy on Trump’s website, with Trump’s signature?
 
Calheel said:
You are the one speaking emotionally about a billion dollar organization in your home town. I am just pointing out publicly available information.

As charities go, Samaritan’s purse is a poorly run and corrupt charity (and that isn’t even addressing the anti-LGBT issues, just dealing with financial skimming issue). Sure, it does some charity work - but nowhere near the amount of money it raises.

Trying to replace FEMA with organizations like Samaritan’s purse would be the exact opposite of efficiency.
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But, replacing FEMA with Samaritan’s Purse would help Franklin Graham and Donald Trump grift.
 
Calheel said:
You are the one speaking emotionally about a billion dollar organization in your home town. I am just pointing out publicly available information.

As charities go, Samaritan’s purse is a poorly run and corrupt charity (and that isn’t even addressing the anti-LGBT issues, just dealing with financial skimming issue). Sure, it does some charity work - but nowhere near the amount of money it raises.

Trying to replace FEMA with organizations like Samaritan’s purse would be the exact opposite of efficiency.
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I searched charity fact checkers. I don't know anything about this one but it pulled up first when I googled it.
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Yosef said:
SP gives a special Bible to all those they help.
They also have the helpers sign it and write a comment in the front cover of the Bible. I'll take a pic of it and put it here if needed.
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What the hell is a “special” Bible?
 
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