Gavin Newsom addresses the nation

[Calheel]

Who in their right mind would think you meant Napa the CITY when referring to Yountville not being in Napa? Of course it’s not, it’s a town.

Exactly. But 99.9% of the world does not know that the French Laundry restaurant is not in Napa (the city) but Yountville.

In any event, this seems like such a weird fight. The problem with Newsom had nothing to do with Napa County guidelines. It was that he loudly and publicly told everyone in the entire state not to eat Thanksgiving dinner with MiMaw. That you could only take down your mask for a minute to gobble turkey with immediate family members only. And yet, when he is giving that advice to the entire state, he is going to a big shindig paid by lobbyists. And then he lies by saying it was an "outdoor" gathering. Does this look outdoors to you:

 

[Zoo_View]

Exactly. But 99.9% of the world does not know that the French Laundry restaurant is not in Napa (the city) but Yountville.

In any event, this seems like such a weird fight. The problem with Newsom had nothing to do with Napa County guidelines. It was that he loudly and publicly told everyone in the entire state not to eat Thanksgiving dinner with MiMaw. That you could only take down your mask for a minute to gobble turkey with immediate family members only. And yet, when he is giving that advice to the entire state, he is going to a big shindig paid by lobbyists. And then he lies by saying it was an "outdoor" gathering. Does this look outdoors to you:

The restaurant incident shows that Newsom is a STUPID politician.

Why do YOU hate him?

 

[stankeylegjones]

You have a legal background, right? Your posts are more logical than most.

For some reason, to me, you seem to HATE Gavin Newsom. To me, he’s kind of a non-descript politician - boring and who gives a fuck about him…….you hate him. Why?

I see him disappearing like that governor from Vermont who howled during a press conference - Howard Dean.

Gavin Newsom is mentioned as a candidate for POTUS BECAUSE he’s California’s Governor.

He doesn’t have “it.” He’ll be prominent for the next 18-24 months. He’ll stall out when he has to interact with voters.

I hope he hammers the fuck out of Trump and the GOP while he has media attention.

He also hates Biden and Kamala and Pete and AOC, along with any other person who he doesn’t think can win an election. It’s such an odd take, one which is greatly influenced by magats.

 

[Calheel]

So, you hate them as well. I’ll go ahead and say that you hate Pete, AOC, and many others. It seems that your hate of democrats is strongly influenced by who the magats hate.

I don't hate people just because I think they are unelectable. Mayor Pete is certainly unelectable, but I think he is a great politician and great communicator.

In contrast, Newsom is both unelectable and eminently hateable.

 

[stankeylegjones]

Exactly. But 99.9% of the world does not know that the French Laundry restaurant is not in Napa (the city) but Yountville.

In any event, this seems like such a weird fight. The problem with Newsom had nothing to do with Napa County guidelines. It was that he loudly and publicly told everyone in the entire state not to eat Thanksgiving dinner with MiMaw. That you could only take down your mask for a minute to gobble turkey with immediate family members only. And yet, when he is giving that advice to the entire state, he is going to a big shindig paid by lobbyists. And then he lies by saying it was an "outdoor" gathering. Does this look outdoors to you:

No one is defending his misstep, not even him. I was adding that they didn’t break any policies by doing it.

 

[Calheel]

He also hates Biden and Kamala and Pete and AOC, along with any other person who he doesn’t think can win an election. It’s such an odd take, one which is greatly influenced by magats.

That is completely incorrect.

Very few politicians are electable -- mainly because they do not have what it takes to get through a primary and a general (which are two very different skill sets).

Donald Trump is electable and I hate him.

Kamala Harris is unelectable and I do not hate her.

Newsom is both unelectable and hateable.

 

[stankeylegjones]

I don't hate people just because I think they are unelectable. Mayor Pete is certainly unelectable, but I think he is a great politician and great communicator.

In contrast, Newsom is both unelectable and eminently hateable.

“I also hate candidates that I don't think can win.”

- Calheel

 

[stankeylegjones]

That is completely incorrect.

Very few politicians are electable -- mainly because they do not have what it takes to get through a primary and a general (which are two very different skill sets).

Donald Trump is electable and I hate him.

Kamala Harris is unelectable and I do not hate her.

Newsom is both unelectable and hateable.

“I also hate candidates that I don't think can win.”

- Calheel

 

[Calheel]

“I also hate candidates that I don't think can win.”

- Calheel

Think you are reading a bit too much into that line. To be completely clear, I don't hate candidates simply because they cannot win. At least not in the visceral way I dislike Newsom. More like the "I hate that candidate to run" kinda way.

 

[Calheel]

No one is defending his misstep, not even him. I was adding that they didn’t break any policies by doing it.

Except for this one:

https://www.thecentersquare.com/california/article_548ee462-19e3-11eb-a51a-2f4bde0a191b.html

 

[Zoo_View]

He also hates Biden and Kamala and Pete and AOC, along with any other person who he doesn’t think can win an election. It’s such an odd take, one which is greatly influenced by magats.

I don’t see Calheel as hating Biden, Kamala, Mayor Pete, AOC, and others……

I’m curious as to why he seems to hate Newsom……someone I see as an inconsequential politician.

In terms of Newsom, I couldn’t raise up enough emotions to hate the guy.

 

[Calheel]

The restaurant incident shows that Newsom is a STUPID politician.

Why do YOU hate him?

Because he is fake. It just oozes out of every pore of his being.

Because he is intentionally tacking to the right to make his views seem more mainstream -- but in a very fake way.

Because he is platforming alt-right voices on his podcast.

Because he goes on national TV during primetime to deliver a speech that is 100% about improving his presidential aspirations -- not about helping the citizens of his state.

Because he is a hypocrite.

 

[stankeylegjones]

Except for this one:

https://www.thecentersquare.com/california/article_548ee462-19e3-11eb-a51a-2f4bde0a191b.html

Point me to where it demonstrates that policies were broken by Newsom.

 

[Calheel]

You have a legal background, right? Your posts are more logical than most.

For some reason, to me, you seem to HATE Gavin Newsom. To me, he’s kind of a non-descript politician - boring and who gives a fuck about him…….you hate him. Why?

I see him disappearing like that governor from Vermont who howled during a press conference - Howard Dean.

Gavin Newsom is mentioned as a candidate for POTUS BECAUSE he’s California’s Governor.

He doesn’t have “it.” He’ll be prominent for the next 18-24 months. He’ll stall out when he has to interact with voters.

I hope he hammers the fuck out of Trump and the GOP while he has media attention.

I hope you are right. If Gavin is the Democratic nominee, I'll have no choice but to vote for him. I *think* Democrats are smart enough not to elect this "non-descript politician" from California. Unfortunately, given the Newsom-stanning by some on this thread, I am worried that he may already be in the lead for 2028.

 

[Zoo_View]

Because he is fake. It just oozes out of every pore of his being.

Because he is intentionally tacking to the right to make his views seem more mainstream -- but in a very fake way.

Because he is platforming alt-right voices on his podcast.

Because he goes on national TV during primetime to deliver a speech that is 100% about improving his presidential aspirations -- not about helping the citizens of his state.

Because he is a hypocrite.

That’s a post I like!

Thank you!

 

[Calheel]

Point me to where it demonstrates that policies were broken by Newsom.

He wasn't outside.
He wasn't six feet away from everyone else.
Appears to be more than three households.
Food not in single serve containers.
Not wearing masks in between bites.
Shall I go on?

 

[stankeylegjones]

He wasn't outside.
He wasn't six feet away from everyone else.
Appears to be more than three households.
Food not in single serve containers.
Not wearing masks in between bites.
Shall I go on?

Let me post it again since you seem to have forgotten it.

Napa County, like the state overall, says that gatherings of more than three households are prohibited. However, that guideline may only apply to gatherings in private residences. Restaurants operate in a gray area and do not explicitly have a ban on more than three households, according to the last guidance California released in July.

 

[Zoo_View]

I hope you are right. If Gavin is the Democratic nominee, I'll have no choice but to vote for him. I *think* Democrats are smart enough not to elect this "non-descript politician" from California. Unfortunately, given the Newsom-stanning by some on this thread, I am worried that he may already be in the lead for 2028.

It’s June 2025, who gives a fuck if he leads for the 2028 nomination right now?

He’s the governor of the wealthiest state in the US…..we should hope and applaud he goes after Trump.

 

[Zoo_View]

Let me post it again since you seem to have forgotten it.

Napa County, like the state overall, says that gatherings of more than three households are prohibited. However, that guideline may only apply to gatherings in private residences. Restaurants operate in a gray area and do not explicitly have a ban on more than three households, according to the last guidance California released in July.

During the height of Covid, did Gavin Newsom go to a restaurant?

He did, correct?

That was STUPID.

 

[Calheel]

Let me post it again since you seem to have forgotten it.

Napa County, like the state overall, says that gatherings of more than three households are prohibited. However, that guideline may only apply to gatherings in private residences. Restaurants operate in a gray area and do not explicitly have a ban on more than three households, according to the last guidance California released in July.

I gave you a specific state health department guideline issued in late October dealing specifically with dining and you are claiming that doesn't apply because there was an earlier guideline in July that was less restrictive (when there wasn't a Covid surge going on)?

Also, Newsom was in a "private gathering." The event was a private function not open to the public.