Going after Greenland

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So has anyone from the administration explained, with specificity, the "need" for Greenland?
He probably wants it because he's a total idiot who has noticed that Greenland looks enormous on a traditional Mercator map, and so he wants it for that reason - "look at the size of that place, it's HUGE! I'll take it!"
 
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Yep. That's what I have been afraid of since he was first elected in 2016, and with the way this term is already going I don't see any way that we avoid serious violence down the road, either overseas or here at home (or both) as you said. Does anyone believe that Hegseth and his other handpicked generals will be reluctant to attack American citizens if they feel it is necessary and Trump orders them to do so? One of the authors of Project 2025 said during last year's campaign something to the effect of "we're going to remake the country if the Left will let us do it" and implied that if they tried to resist that there would be violent consequences.
The exact quote was “we will remake American and it will be bloodless, if the Left allows it.”
 
Hell, the damage this Trump team has done in the last two months can never be undone. After this two month clusterfuck this administration has carried out, no country will ever trust the United States again. Ever. That’s something the trumpers don’t understand.
I mean, we literally nuked Japan and they are now one of our allies, so...
 
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I mean, we literally nuked to Japan and they are now one of our allies, so...
Yeah, who started that war? Who attacked who?

And who helped who rebuild? And who formed the government to replace the Imperial government?

The analogy to WWII only highlights Trump's stupidity. We aren't allies with Germany and Japan because we conquered them. We are allies because we helped them. Trump simply cannot understand the value of having friends. He has no real friends in his personal life. Never has.
 
I mean, we literally nuked Japan and they are now one of our allies, so...
That’s a different situation. We were at war with them. We are at peace with Denmark. Trump has disrupted an alliance that has maintained peace in Europe for 80 years. Going after Greenland does nothing but isolate us further from our traditional allies.
 
One of the Pub posters made a post awhile back that on the surface seemed like actual thought was put into it. Something about the natural resources were needed to protect America from China or Russia. I didn’t agree with it, I was just surprised they had a reason other than because we want to.
I think it’s also about the shipping lanes that will open up in the artic.

The thing is, I am guessing we could have expanded our footprint in Greenland without conflict. If Greenland really needed protection from Russia and China as some claim, that would have been easy to achieve without antagonizing and threatening our allies.

But none of that would have satisfied Trump narcissistic desires.
 


“… The president on Saturday also said he has “absolutely” had real conversations about annexing Greenland, which is currently a semiautonomous Danish territory.

We’ll get Greenland. Yeah, 100%,” Trump said.

He added that there’s a “good possibility that we could do it without military force” but that “I don’t take anything off the table.”

Asked what message acquiring Greenland would send to Russia and the rest of the world, Trump said, “I don’t really think about that. I don’t really care. Greenland’s a very separate subject, very different. It’s international peace. It’s international security and strength.

You have ships sailing outside Greenland from Russia, from China and from many other places. And we’re not going to allow things to happen that are going to be — that are going to hurt the world or the United States,” he added.“

 


“… The president on Saturday also said he has “absolutely” had real conversations about annexing Greenland, which is currently a semiautonomous Danish territory.

We’ll get Greenland. Yeah, 100%,” Trump said.

He added that there’s a “good possibility that we could do it without military force” but that “I don’t take anything off the table.”

Asked what message acquiring Greenland would send to Russia and the rest of the world, Trump said, “I don’t really think about that. I don’t really care. Greenland’s a very separate subject, very different. It’s international peace. It’s international security and strength.

You have ships sailing outside Greenland from Russia, from China and from many other places. And we’re not going to allow things to happen that are going to be — that are going to hurt the world or the United States,” he added.“


I have no doubt that Trump "doesn't really think about that" because he never things about anything. It's all done on impulse, like the five-year-old spoiled brat that he still is. And good luck trying to take Greenland by force when only about 6% of the population there wants to be ruled by the USA. Of course they couldn't successfully resist an all-out invasion, but they could certainly resist us in other ways using the means occupied peoples always have - protests, terrorism, etc. Again, this is all quite literally insane. What a time to be alive.
 
Yep. That's what I have been afraid of since he was first elected in 2016, and with the way this term is already going I don't see any way that we avoid serious violence down the road, either overseas or here at home (or both) as you said. Does anyone believe that Hegseth and his other handpicked generals will be reluctant to attack American citizens if they feel it is necessary and Trump orders them to do so? One of the authors of Project 2025 said during last year's campaign something to the effect of "we're going to remake the country if the Left will let us do it" and implied that if they tried to resist that there would be violent consequences.

“And so I come full circle on this response and just want to encourage you with some substance that we are in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be.” - Kevin Roberts, President of the Heritage Foundation
 

U.S. President Donald Trump hinted he could use military force to take over Greenland — in the latest sign of Washington's fixation with the autonomous territory in the Kingdom of Denmark.

“We’ll get Greenland. Yeah, 100 percent,” Trump told NBC.

"There's a good possibility it could be done without military force," he said, adding however that "I don't take anything off the table."
 
That’s a different situation. We were at war with them. We are at peace with Denmark. Trump has disrupted an alliance that has maintained peace in Europe for 80 years. Going after Greenland does nothing but isolate us further from our traditional allies.
I don't think it's a great idea to just "acquire" Greenland or any other autonomous territory. I also think Greenland is only about 60k people, it doesn't sound like they are big fans of Denmark and I really don't see how this would really piss off anyone, long term, besides Russia and China.
 
I don't think it's a great idea to just "acquire" Greenland or any other autonomous territory. I also think Greenland is only about 60k people, it doesn't sound like they are big fans of Denmark and I really don't see how this would really piss off anyone, long term, besides Russia and China.
Violating international laws and sovereignty won't piss anyone off? I've ignored the urge to super ignore you to date but I'm getting close
 
Violating international laws and sovereignty won't piss anyone off?
there are multiple ways that an acquisition of Greenland could happen. One of them, an actual military invasion, could have long-term negative effects. The other options, no, I don't think anyone except China and Russia is going to be pissed off long-term.
I've ignored the urge to super ignore you to date but I'm getting close
If I cared any less, I might pass out. A need to shield yourself from things that I say is a reflection on you, not me, in this case.
 
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there are multiple ways that an acquisition of Greenland could happen. One of them, an actual military invasion, could have long-term negative effects. The other options, no, I don't think anyone, except China and Russia, is going to be pissed off long-term.If I cared any less, I might pass out. A need to shield yourself from things that I say is a reflection on you, not me, in this case.
What about the 85% of Greenlanders who don’t want to be acquired by America. Think they might be a little irritated?
 
there are multiple ways that an acquisition of Greenland could happen. One of them, an actual military invasion, could have long-term negative effects. The other options, no, I don't think anyone, except China and Russia, is going to be pissed off long-term.If I cared any less, I might pass out. A need to shield yourself from things that I say is a reflection on you, not me, in this case.
What other options are those? There are two: with consent, and without consent. With consent is not going to happen, since Greenlanders don't want it, Denmark doesn't want it, and Europe doesn't want it. So now we're at without consent. Pray tell how we are going to get it without consent except a military invasion.

Yesterday you posted multiple times in a way that strongly suggests you view women as little more than tits and ass. Today you're struggling with the concept of consent. Just saying.
 
What about the 85% of Greenlanders who don’t want to be acquired by America. Think they might be a little irritated?
Of course, but they are currently unhappy being controlled by Denmark.

I was talking more about the impact around the world, not specifically with the current citizens of Greenland.
 
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