Going after Greenland

[05C40]

Folks, let's look at this rationally. This is not a political problem, it's a math problem. The USofA already has an existing history of buying property from the Kingdom of Denmark -- the US Virgin Islands. We purchased the US Virgin Islands from Denmark in 1917 for $25M. That's about $620M in 2025 dollars. The land area of the US Virgin Islands is about 134 square miles. That works out to about $4,630,000 per square mile. Greenland's size is about 837,000 square miles. So using the already established price that the US is willing to pay for Danish territory, this works out to be a paltry $3.9T. OK, now obviously the Danish negotiators are not fools and are not going to accept American dollars in payment and will demand gold. The current price for gold is $42.22 dollars per troy ounce, as set by law in 1973. $3.9T divided by $42.22 per troy ounce yields a paltry 92M troy ounces of gold to buy Greenland. There are 29,167 troy ounces in a US ton. Which means all we have to do to buy Greenland, using our existing course of dealing numbers, is to give Greenland a little less than 3.2 million tons of gold and Greenland is OURS! The only glitch I see in this plan is that we only have about 5,050 US tons of gold in Ft. Knox. Russia is a big gold producer, do you think they might lend us a few tons? Or, just think about it for a minute, was this St. Donald of Mar-a-Lago's plan all along -- destroy Russia by taking all their gold!

ETA1: Now I know what a lot of you are thinking - with Global Warming a lot of Greenland is going to melt and we shouldn't pay for that part. But, if a significant portion of Greenland does melt, then sea levels are going to rise and the US Virgin Islands are going to get a lot smaller. And any consideration of adjusting the purchase price of Greenland should take into account the impact on the inflation adjusted per square mile purchase price of what's left of the US Virgin Islands and should also take into account the relative contributions to Global Warming that the US and Denmark have made.

ETA2: If the US hesitates at participating in a deal that honors established historical precedents between the US and Denmark, then perhaps Denmark could "sweeten" the deal by giving the US a "break" on the cost of Ozempic.

 

[Healing]

So has anyone from the administration explained, with specificity, the "need" for Greenland?

I think it’s quite literally what Putin has commanded. Greenland is an afterthought on the global stage, therefore, encouraging don to invade 1. Likely puts the nail in NATO. They likely won’t respond militarily to an invasion of Greenland. 2. Gives Russia a base of operations in the Atlantic.

 

[Icky Mettle]

I think it’s more keep it safe FOR Russia.

Yep, when Russia is ready to attack much of Europe, it will be a lot easier if it can do so from two angles: from the east and from the northwest.

 

[sringwal]

Folks, let's look at this rationally. This is not a political problem, it's a math problem. The USofA already has an existing history of buying property from the Kingdom of Denmark -- the US Virgin Islands. We purchased the US Virgin Islands from Denmark in 1917 for $25M. That's about $620M in 2025 dollars. The land area of the US Virgin Islands is about 134 square miles. That works out to about $4,630,000 per square mile. Greenland's size is about 837,000 square miles. So using the already established price that the US is willing to pay for Danish territory, this works out to be a paltry $3.9T. OK, now obviously the Danish negotiators are not fools and are not going to accept American dollars in payment and will demand gold. The current price for gold is $42.22 dollars per troy ounce, as set by law in 1973. $3.9T divided by $42.22 per troy ounce yields a paltry 92M troy ounces of gold to buy Greenland. There are 29,167 troy ounces in a US ton. Which means all we have to do to buy Greenland, using our existing course of dealing numbers, is to give Greenland a little less than 3.2 million tons of gold and Greenland is OURS! The only glitch I see in this plan is that we only have about 5,050 US tons of gold in Ft. Knox. Russia is a big gold producer, do you think they might lend us a few tons? Or, just think about it for a minute, was this St. Donald of Mar-a-Lago's plan all along -- destroy Russia by taking all their gold!

ETA: Now I know what a lot of you are thinking - with Global Warming a lot of Greenland is going to melt and we shouldn't pay for that part. But, if a significant portion of Greenland does melt, then sea levels are going to rise and the US Virgin Islands are going to get a lot smaller. And any consideration of adjusting the purchase price of Greenland should take into account the impact on the inflation adjusted per square mile purchase price of what's left of the US Virgin Islands and should also take into account the relative contributions to Global Warming that the US and Denmark have made.

The math checks out.

 

[Mulberry Heel]

It's still down the road... but we're headed straight for conflict. Either with the rest of the world, ourselves or both.

Yep. That's what I have been afraid of since he was first elected in 2016, and with the way this term is already going I don't see any way that we avoid serious violence down the road, either overseas or here at home (or both) as you said. Does anyone believe that Hegseth and his other handpicked generals will be reluctant to attack American citizens if they feel it is necessary and Trump orders them to do so? One of the authors of Project 2025 said during last year's campaign something to the effect of "we're going to remake the country if the Left will let us do it" and implied that if they tried to resist that there would be violent consequences.

 

[Mulberry Heel]

So has anyone from the administration explained, with specificity, the "need" for Greenland?

He probably wants it because he's a total idiot who has noticed that Greenland looks enormous on a traditional Mercator map, and so he wants it for that reason - "look at the size of that place, it's HUGE! I'll take it!"

 

[Kingpin]

Yep. That's what I have been afraid of since he was first elected in 2016, and with the way this term is already going I don't see any way that we avoid serious violence down the road, either overseas or here at home (or both) as you said. Does anyone believe that Hegseth and his other handpicked generals will be reluctant to attack American citizens if they feel it is necessary and Trump orders them to do so? One of the authors of Project 2025 said during last year's campaign something to the effect of "we're going to remake the country if the Left will let us do it" and implied that if they tried to resist that there would be violent consequences.

The exact quote was “we will remake American and it will be bloodless, if the Left allows it.”

 

[1moretimeagain]

No chance JD changed any minds in Greenland. He didn’t even bother to wear a suit.

 

[ZenMode]

Hell, the damage this Trump team has done in the last two months can never be undone. After this two month clusterfuck this administration has carried out, no country will ever trust the United States again. Ever. That’s something the trumpers don’t understand.

I mean, we literally nuked Japan and they are now one of our allies, so...

 

[superrific]

I mean, we literally nuked to Japan and they are now one of our allies, so...

Yeah, who started that war? Who attacked who?

And who helped who rebuild? And who formed the government to replace the Imperial government?

The analogy to WWII only highlights Trump's stupidity. We aren't allies with Germany and Japan because we conquered them. We are allies because we helped them. Trump simply cannot understand the value of having friends. He has no real friends in his personal life. Never has.

 

[Calheel]

 

[Calheel]

RealLifeLore does a great job with his geographical videos. Lots of very useful information in this video about the history of the US and Greenland.

 

[Patb78]

I mean, we literally nuked Japan and they are now one of our allies, so...

That’s a different situation. We were at war with them. We are at peace with Denmark. Trump has disrupted an alliance that has maintained peace in Europe for 80 years. Going after Greenland does nothing but isolate us further from our traditional allies.

 

[ChapelHillSooner]

One of the Pub posters made a post awhile back that on the surface seemed like actual thought was put into it. Something about the natural resources were needed to protect America from China or Russia. I didn’t agree with it, I was just surprised they had a reason other than because we want to.

I think it’s also about the shipping lanes that will open up in the artic.

The thing is, I am guessing we could have expanded our footprint in Greenland without conflict. If Greenland really needed protection from Russia and China as some claim, that would have been easy to achieve without antagonizing and threatening our allies.

But none of that would have satisfied Trump narcissistic desires.

 

[nycfan]

“… The president on Saturday also said he has “absolutely” had real conversations about annexing Greenland, which is currently a semiautonomous Danish territory.

“We’ll get Greenland. Yeah, 100%,” Trump said.

He added that there’s a “good possibility that we could do it without military force” but that “I don’t take anything off the table.”

… Asked what message acquiring Greenland would send to Russia and the rest of the world, Trump said, “I don’t really think about that. I don’t really care. Greenland’s a very separate subject, very different. It’s international peace. It’s international security and strength.”

“You have ships sailing outside Greenland from Russia, from China and from many other places. And we’re not going to allow things to happen that are going to be — that are going to hurt the world or the United States,” he added.“

Trump says he ‘couldn’t care less’ if foreign automakers raise prices due to tariffs

In an interview with NBC News, President Donald Trump also said he wouldn’t fire anyone involved in the Signal group chat.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Mulberry Heel]

“… The president on Saturday also said he has “absolutely” had real conversations about annexing Greenland, which is currently a semiautonomous Danish territory.

“We’ll get Greenland. Yeah, 100%,” Trump said.

He added that there’s a “good possibility that we could do it without military force” but that “I don’t take anything off the table.”

… Asked what message acquiring Greenland would send to Russia and the rest of the world, Trump said, “I don’t really think about that. I don’t really care. Greenland’s a very separate subject, very different. It’s international peace. It’s international security and strength.”

“You have ships sailing outside Greenland from Russia, from China and from many other places. And we’re not going to allow things to happen that are going to be — that are going to hurt the world or the United States,” he added.“

Trump says he ‘couldn’t care less’ if foreign automakers raise prices due to tariffs

In an interview with NBC News, President Donald Trump also said he wouldn’t fire anyone involved in the Signal group chat.

www.nbcnews.com

I have no doubt that Trump "doesn't really think about that" because he never things about anything. It's all done on impulse, like the five-year-old spoiled brat that he still is. And good luck trying to take Greenland by force when only about 6% of the population there wants to be ruled by the USA. Of course they couldn't successfully resist an all-out invasion, but they could certainly resist us in other ways using the means occupied peoples always have - protests, terrorism, etc. Again, this is all quite literally insane. What a time to be alive.

 

[dukeman92]

Yep. That's what I have been afraid of since he was first elected in 2016, and with the way this term is already going I don't see any way that we avoid serious violence down the road, either overseas or here at home (or both) as you said. Does anyone believe that Hegseth and his other handpicked generals will be reluctant to attack American citizens if they feel it is necessary and Trump orders them to do so? One of the authors of Project 2025 said during last year's campaign something to the effect of "we're going to remake the country if the Left will let us do it" and implied that if they tried to resist that there would be violent consequences.

“And so I come full circle on this response and just want to encourage you with some substance that we are in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be.” - Kevin Roberts, President of the Heritage Foundation

 

[altmin]

Trump doesn’t rule out military intervention in Greenland — again

U.S. president’s comments come on the heels of diplomatic tensions between Copenhagen and Washington.

www.politico.eu

U.S. President Donald Trump hinted he could use military force to take over Greenland — in the latest sign of Washington's fixation with the autonomous territory in the Kingdom of Denmark.

“We’ll get Greenland. Yeah, 100 percent,” Trump told NBC.

"There's a good possibility it could be done without military force," he said, adding however that "I don't take anything off the table."

 

[ZenMode]

That’s a different situation. We were at war with them. We are at peace with Denmark. Trump has disrupted an alliance that has maintained peace in Europe for 80 years. Going after Greenland does nothing but isolate us further from our traditional allies.

I don't think it's a great idea to just "acquire" Greenland or any other autonomous territory. I also think Greenland is only about 60k people, it doesn't sound like they are big fans of Denmark and I really don't see how this would really piss off anyone, long term, besides Russia and China.

 

[uncgriff]

I don't think it's a great idea to just "acquire" Greenland or any other autonomous territory. I also think Greenland is only about 60k people, it doesn't sound like they are big fans of Denmark and I really don't see how this would really piss off anyone, long term, besides Russia and China.

Violating international laws and sovereignty won't piss anyone off? I've ignored the urge to super ignore you to date but I'm getting close