Going after Greenland

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finesse said:
Why don't they put that money here where it's within our national borders. That's even better for national security.


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Because they would have to follow environmental regulations. And a politically empowered local population.

They want Greenland to be a colony so they can do evil deeds without accountability. There's no chance at all that the GOP would ever allow Greenland to be a state. Even if that was part of the promise.
 
heelinhell said:
A $100,000 "bribe" to every Greenlander would be about 3 billion. That seems like a cheap price to pay for securing Greenland as our 51st state and its landmass would be 50% larger than Alaska.

Winning !
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I might be wrong about how things in Greenland but I suspect the same sort of thing would happen there as here. Any of these seem as if it would put a crimp in your political leverage or maybe even your right to vote.

A person who takes foreign money in exchange for supporting the takeover of the United States would face a variety of serious federal charges, most notably sedition, conspiracy, and espionage, depending on the specific actions and the nature of the "takeover".

Potential Charges
The specific charges and penalties would depend heavily on the circumstances and the evidence gathered by federal prosecutors.
  • Sedition: This is a serious charge under 18 U.S.C. § 2384, which makes it a crime for two or more people to conspire to "overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof".
  • Espionage: If the individual is found to be providing national defense information or working with a foreign government to harm the U.S. national security, they could face charges under the Espionage Act of 1917, which carries severe penalties, including long prison sentences.
  • Conspiracy: Various conspiracy charges would apply, as a conspiracy involves a plan and an agreement between two or more people to do something illegal. This could include conspiracy to commit sedition, espionage, or other related crimes.
  • Receiving Foreign Funds Illegally: Federal law strictly prohibits foreign nationals and governments from contributing to U.S. political campaigns or attempting to influence U.S. elections in specific ways, and knowingly assisting in this process is also a violation.
  • Treason: This is the only crime defined in the U.S. Constitution and is very narrowly interpreted. To be convicted of treason, an individual must be found to be levying war against the U.S. or "adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort" during a time of formally declared war. A person taking foreign money to support a "takeover" would likely not meet the high bar for a treason charge unless an open
 
WaynetheDrain said:
Can we just level-set on this Greenland thing by acknowledging that in no way, shape, or form, is this about "national security?" It's not. Denmark allows us military presence there, and is more than willing to allow us to increase that presence.

This is about resources, just like Venezuela was.
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And we will lose so much more than Trump and his fools can even comprehend. Within 30 days of us "taking over " Greenland, Europe will start the closing of our NATO bases.
Gone:
-NSA Gaeta and Augusta Bay (try resupply without them)
-NSA Sigonella (our busiest Med air base)
-NSA Naples - home of the 6th Fleet
-NSA Rota ( our most important European based naval listening setup)
-NSA Souda (try force projection for more than 30 days without anywhere in the Eastern Mediterranean)
-Air bases in Turkey, Spain, Hungary, Italy, Germany, UK, The Azores, etc.
-Grafenwoehr (try training anywhere else in Europe except maybe Poznan')

Trump and JD will completely ruin the single biggest driver we've had keeping us as the preeminent economy in the world.
 
finesse said:
I might be wrong about how things in Greenland but I suspect the same sort of thing would happen there as here. Any of these seem as if it would put a crimp in your political leverage or maybe even your right to vote.

A person who takes foreign money in exchange for supporting the takeover of the United States would face a variety of serious federal charges, most notably sedition, conspiracy, and espionage, depending on the specific actions and the nature of the "takeover".

Potential Charges
The specific charges and penalties would depend heavily on the circumstances and the evidence gathered by federal prosecutors.
  • Sedition: This is a serious charge under 18 U.S.C. § 2384, which makes it a crime for two or more people to conspire to "overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof".
  • Espionage: If the individual is found to be providing national defense information or working with a foreign government to harm the U.S. national security, they could face charges under the Espionage Act of 1917, which carries severe penalties, including long prison sentences.
  • Conspiracy: Various conspiracy charges would apply, as a conspiracy involves a plan and an agreement between two or more people to do something illegal. This could include conspiracy to commit sedition, espionage, or other related crimes.
  • Receiving Foreign Funds Illegally: Federal law strictly prohibits foreign nationals and governments from contributing to U.S. political campaigns or attempting to influence U.S. elections in specific ways, and knowingly assisting in this process is also a violation.
  • Treason: This is the only crime defined in the U.S. Constitution and is very narrowly interpreted. To be convicted of treason, an individual must be found to be levying war against the U.S. or "adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort" during a time of formally declared war. A person taking foreign money to support a "takeover" would likely not meet the high bar for a treason charge unless an open
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Legalities... how old fashion!
 
Batt Boy said:
. . .. -Grafenwoehr (try training anywhere else in Europe except maybe Poznan') . . ..
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I actually trained at both Grafenwoehr and Wildflecken. As I was reading you post, I realized that I had no idea where either were. Just looked them up. Not where I would have guessed.
 
Unc12003 said:
They won’t care one bit if it’s a trump thing.

Helping people with student loans, healthcare, taking care of the homeless, etc all off the table but sure give everyone in Greenland $100k each because trump decided so
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They already forgot about the $20 billion we gave Argentina, but something something about Joe Biden throwing eggs at them to raise prices or something.
 
05C40 said:
I actually trained at both Grafenwoehr and Wildflecken. As I was reading you post, I realized that I had no idea where either were. Just looked them up. Not where I would have guessed.
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I was only at Grafenwoehr during summers months, both times, and every day it rained.
 
StrangePackage said:
Our tax dollars at work
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no worries...

We have 20 trillion dollars socked away with tariff revenue.

$40 billion to bailout Argentina
$14 billion to bail out our farmers
$ 6 billion to buy Greenland
$ ? billion to fund oil companies that will pay for infrastructure and oil extraction in Venezuela

These expenditures will not impact taxpayers because we have trillions in the bank from tariff revenue...duh

WINNING !
 
Kingpin said:
They should all take the money and vote NO.
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That reminds me of the story Phil Ford told about his recruitment. He said one school offered him a large some of money and he told Dean Smith while Smith was recruiting him. Smith told him to take the money and come play for UNC.
 
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