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GOP & Policies toward/treatment of Transgender & other LGBTQ Americans

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wmheel1287 said:
In my opinion, McBride is handling this correctly. Just address and open letter to Mace and have her decide which restroom is the "appropriate" one and move on with it.

Hell, put a porta-john on the floor and use that. Neuter the moron in her tracks. That's really all anyone can do because we are ruled by the morons.
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I think she should take a shit just outside the door to the women's restroom every time she needs to. Big ol' dump, right on the floor.

Granted, diplomacy has never been my strong point.
 
Wheels81 said:
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I would get a couple of those wrong, lol. But only a couple. I would have estimated gun ownership in the mid 40s; and military veteran at probably 15%. That 6% figure is pretty surprising to me, but I'm sure it would make sense if I thought about it. Oh, I also I would have thought atheists were more like 10%.

A few smaller errors: I would have put "advanced degree" a little lower, but that depends in part on what counts as an "advanced degree." I would have said Muslim at 3% (and I'm skeptical of that 1% number) and Jewish at about 5-6%.

Note the similarities in the numbers in so many of those categories. That strikes me as the result of a cohort of people -- oh, I don't know, let's call them MAGAs -- who are convinced the boogeymen are all around them in massive numbers.
 
superrific said:
I would get a couple of those wrong, lol. But only a couple. I would have estimated gun ownership in the mid 40s; and military veteran at probably 15%. That 6% figure is pretty surprising to me, but I'm sure it would make sense if I thought about it. Oh, I also I would have thought atheists were more like 10%.

A few smaller errors: I would have put "advanced degree" a little lower, but that depends in part on what counts as an "advanced degree." I would have said Muslim at 3% (and I'm skeptical of that 1% number) and Jewish at about 5-6%.

Note the similarities in the numbers in so many of those categories. That strikes me as the result of a cohort of people -- oh, I don't know, let's call them MAGAs -- who are convinced the boogeymen are all around them in massive numbers.
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It is because the word "atheist" has a negative connotation in America and people tend not to self-identify with that term (often preferring agnostic, when really they are both). The people who answer "none" next to religion are now over 30% in America, and while that is not a perfect analog to atheism, it is pretty close.
 
Calheel said:
It is because the word "atheist" has a negative connotation in America and people tend not to self-identify with that term (often preferring agnostic, when really they are both). The people who answer "none" next to religion are now over 30% in America, and while that is not a perfect analog to atheism, it is pretty close.
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I consider myself an apathetic agnostic.
 
JCTarheel82 said:
Lol jesus. Those estimates are wild.
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Indeed. But it does go a long way towards explaining Trump's appeal to a large segment of voters. His supporters really do believe that they're surrounded by legions of enemies. Believing that 1 in 5 Americans are transgender, 30% are gay, and 27% are Muslim is no doubt feeding their paranoia, and makes it ridiculously easy for Trump and other Republicans to play on that paranoia.
 
This is such bad faith BS:



1. The assertion that this person has been “injuring” women for years is simply false.

2. The claim that female D1 athletes are “defenseless” is moralizing BS - coming from a former female D1 athlete no less.

The athlete should sue Riley Gaines for this. I would.
 
CFordUNC said:
The most hilarious part about Riley Gaines is that even ignoring Lia Thomas, Gaines still got her sorry ass beat by like FOUR other biological women in that swim meet.
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Gaines should be thankful every day for Lia Thomas. Gaines wouldn’t have made the medal stand either way, but because Thomas participated, Gaines was able to make a career out of her losing race,
 
A quote from one of my favorite podcasters/philosophers:

"I think that “atheist” is a term that we do not need, in the same way that we don’t need a word for someone who rejects astrology. We simply do not call people “non-astrologers.” All we need are words like “reason” and “evidence” and “common sense” and “bullshit” to put astrologers in their place, and so it could be with religion."
 
GIFT LINK —> https://wapo.st/3AXTOEl

In transgender fight, volleyball ‘saviors’ miss the point of sports​

There are no easy answers in the San José State volleyball controversy, but those reducing the issue to “them” against “us” are missing the point.

“Competition is never equal, and it is only sort of, approximately, occasionally fair. The best we can ask is that it be meaningful, that it teach us something about ourselves. This is the context in which transgender athletes enter into sport, and the people who would reduce this self-seeking to an unfair “them” against “us” are missing the point entirely: Sport doesn’t tell us who we are biologically, but spiritually, and psychologically, and the first thing it tells us is not to be victims. So it’s a step backward for so many women athletes to cry frailty in the debate over trans participation. …”
 
nycfan said:
GIFT LINK —> https://wapo.st/3AXTOEl

In transgender fight, volleyball ‘saviors’ miss the point of sports​

There are no easy answers in the San José State volleyball controversy, but those reducing the issue to “them” against “us” are missing the point.

“Competition is never equal, and it is only sort of, approximately, occasionally fair. The best we can ask is that it be meaningful, that it teach us something about ourselves. This is the context in which transgender athletes enter into sport, and the people who would reduce this self-seeking to an unfair “them” against “us” are missing the point entirely: Sport doesn’t tell us who we are biologically, but spiritually, and psychologically, and the first thing it tells us is not to be victims. So it’s a step backward for so many women athletes to cry frailty in the debate over trans participation. …”
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No doubt they're missing the point, and no doubt there are no easy answers in reality, but we all know that to Trumpers and the athletes complaining about this issue that it is indeed a very simple issue, and they don't care about the complexities or how it looks or if it is a step backwards for women's sports. They want transgenders barred from playing in women's sports, period, and won't be satisfied with anything else. And given where we are politically right now it's very likely that they're going to get their way, both in red states and probably even at the national level if our GOP President, GOP Congress, and GOP Supreme Court wants to push it, which given the effectiveness of attacks on transgenders in the presidential campaign they likely will.
 
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