GOP & Policies toward/treatment of Transgender Americans

[Callatoroy]

He wasn't.

Teen placed on sex offender registry after school assaults

A northern Virginia teenager found guilty of sexually assaulting classmates at two separate schools has been ordered to attend a locked, residential treatment facility until he turns 18.

apnews.com

Parents were angered that there were multiple assaults. After the first one occurred in a school bathroom at Stone Bridge High School in May 2021 the boy was allowed to attend nearby Broad Run High School while he awaited trial in juvenile court. The second assault occurred in a Broad Run classroom last October.

The case also became embroiled in debate over extending protections to transgender students in schools, amid allegations that the boy had been wearing a skirt when he assaulted his classmate at Stone Bridge. At trial, prosecutors presented evidence that the boy in part blamed that assault on the fact that he accidentally caught his knee-length skirt on his watch while locked in a bathroom stall with the girl, according to news reports. The boy’s sexuality or gender was not an issue in Thursday’s hearing.

??? So he wasn't wearing a skirt? "the boy in part blamed that assault on the fact that he accidentally caught his knee-length skirt on his watch while locked in a bathroom stall with the girl, according to news reports. The boy’s

 

[Callatoroy]

He was like 10 years old when the policy was adopted!! Of course he wasn't wearing a skirt. I have no idea why he started wearing a skirt, except that it wasn't because he identified as a woman. The guy was a criminal. A pedophile. A rapist. A predator. There's not a damn thing about the Virginia policies that impacted what he did.

By the way, the leaders of your party are also criminals, pedophiles, rapists, predators. Are you really ok with that?

Are you not comfortable stating your opinions to the questions I asked?

 

[finesse]

Just idle speculation but if you were going to molest someone in a restroom or locker room, wouldn't you pick a time without witnesses? If there are no witnesses, then why does how the attacker is dressed matter?

I can see other objections and could see separate bathrooms to cater to religious objections and such, but the assault argument is pretty idiotic.

 

[aGDevil2k]

Didn't you just get your ass kicked based on that mentality?

Ass kicked? Your cult God just barely beat a woman who only had 2.5 months to build a campaign and run. Sounds kind of embarrassing that old orange tuffy could barely squeak it out.

 

[TangledUpInBlue06]

if you have a penis you use the men's bathroom
if you have a vagina or are fully transitioned from a man to a woman you use the ladies bathroom
if you are anything else you use the unisex bathroom

Isn't the logical conclusion of this genital checks by some sort of bathroom police before entering a bathroom?

If people are allowed to "self-certify" their genitals, why would you trust that self-certification any more than you would trust that person's self-certification as to which bathroom is the most appropriate for them?

And if we don't trust self-certifications of genitals, where does that leave us?

 

[aGDevil2k]

Isn't the logical conclusion of this genital checks by some sort of bathroom police before entering a bathroom?

If people are allowed to "self-certify" their genitals, why would you trust that self-certification any more than you would trust that person's self-certification as to which bathroom is the most appropriate for them?

And if we don't trust self-certifications of genitals, where does that leave us?

Lindsay Graham has volunteered to check all men.

 

[lawtig02]

Are you not comfortable stating your opinions to the questions I asked?

No, I'm happy answering them.

Move past that case. What is your opinion on biological men using female bathrooms?

Biological men who identify as men should use the men's restroom. The very small number of biological men who identify as women should either use a transgender or unisex restroom, or should be allowed to use the women's restroom, where the stall design will pose literally no risk to any biological women using the same restroom.

Do you see any logic in the claim that non transitioned men could pose a threat to women in a women's bathroom?

Sure. There's always a risk that sexual assaults could happen in women's restrooms, whether committed by biological women, biological men who identify as men (the VA situation), or by biological men who identify as women. All such crimes should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

Do you think any woman who objects to that is absurd and discriminating against trans men?

I don't know what this question even means. I know the women in my life find the anti-trans movement among the GOP to be abhorrent, to the point they will never, ever under any circumstance consider voting for Republicans anytime in the future because of the dishonest scapegoating that has happened over the last several years. Otherwise, I can't speak for women, as I'm not one.


Now your turn: "By the way, the leaders of your party are also criminals, pedophiles, rapists, predators. Are you really ok with that?"

 

[1moretimeagain]

Men have been assaulting women in bathrooms since the creation of bathrooms.

Imagine the rapist who was going to commit his crime, but wasn’t willing to risk being charged with using the wrong bathroom.

It would be like deciding to murder someone, but you get to their house and see a no trespassing sign. Murder is one thing, but I’m just not willing to also face a trespassing charge.

 

[TangledUpInBlue06]

Lindsay Graham has volunteered to check all men.

Like at TSA, I imagine all bathroom entrants would be entitled to a check from someone that is their same gender. So we'll also need to genital check the genital checkers. And of course, we'll need to genital check the genital checkers' genital checkers.

 

[lawtig02]

Isn't the logical conclusion of this genital checks by some sort of bathroom police before entering a bathroom?

If people are allowed to "self-certify" their genitals, why would you trust that self-certification any more than you would trust that person's self-certification as to which bathroom is the most appropriate for them?

And if we don't trust self-certifications of genitals, where does that leave us?

Only the restrooms on the House floor. I don't think we need to worry about other restrooms, but Mike Johnson DEFINITELY needs genital checkers in the House restrooms. As long as they're not linked to his app, anyway.

 

[Callatoroy]

Ass kicked? Your cult God just barely beat a woman who only had 2.5 months to build a campaign and run. Sounds kind of embarrassing that old orange tuffy could barely squeak it out.

Number Of Swing States = 7

Number Trump Won = 7
Number Kamala Won = 0

That's getting your ass kicked especially given the gains he made in almost every category

 

[lawtig02]

No, I'm happy answering them.

Move past that case. What is your opinion on biological men using female bathrooms?

Biological men who identify as men should use the men's restroom. The very small number of biological men who identify as women should either use a transgender or unisex restroom, or should be allowed to use the women's restroom, where the stall design will pose literally no risk to any biological women using the same restroom.

Do you see any logic in the claim that non transitioned men could pose a threat to women in a women's bathroom?

Sure. There's always a risk that sexual assaults could happen in women's restrooms, whether committed by biological women, biological men who identify as men (the VA situation), or by biological men who identify as women. All such crimes should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

Do you think any woman who objects to that is absurd and discriminating against trans men?

I don't know what this question even means. I know the women in my life find the anti-trans movement among the GOP to be abhorrent, to the point they will never, ever under any circumstance consider voting for Republicans anytime in the future because of the dishonest scapegoating that has happened over the last several years. Otherwise, I can't speak for women, as I'm not one.


Now your turn: "By the way, the leaders of your party are also criminals, pedophiles, rapists, predators. Are you really ok with that?"

Bump for callatoroy

 

[superrific]

Have you ever heard anything negative about him prior to getting into politics? Other than partisanship why is an accusation more credible than his denial?

1. I've never heard anything about him period until last week. Didn't know who he was. So there's that. He's a completely laughable, pathetic, unpatriotic pick regardless.
2. Um, let's think this through. What incentive does a woman have to make a bullshit accusation? None. It usually causes trouble for her and leads to all sorts of backlash effects, including stochastic terrorism and harassment. Christine Blasey Ford, for instance, had to move.

Now, let's think about the man's incentive. Does he have an incentive to lie about a crime he committed? I think even you can figure this one out.

And that's why accusations are more credible than denials.

3. Now, when women have something to gain by a bogus accusation -- let's say in a divorce action -- the situation is different. But this woman had zero incentive to make up a story about a nobody.

 

[superrific]

Number Of Swing States = 7

Number Trump Won = 7
Number Kamala Won = 0

That's getting your ass kicked especially given the gains he made in almost every category

Nobody cares. You can jerk off to these numbers all you want. I'm sure it gets you hot. But this means basically nothing at all, except that our country will suffer because we will have a power-grabbing madman in charge, and the madman has been given immunity to commit crimes.

 

[Callatoroy]

No, I'm happy answering them.

Move past that case. What is your opinion on biological men using female bathrooms?

Biological men who identify as men should use the men's restroom. The very small number of biological men who identify as women should either use a transgender or unisex restroom, or should be allowed to use the women's restroom, where the stall design will pose literally no risk to any biological women using the same restroom.

Do you see any logic in the claim that non transitioned men could pose a threat to women in a women's bathroom?

Sure. There's always a risk that sexual assaults could happen in women's restrooms, whether committed by biological women, biological men who identify as men (the VA situation), or by biological men who identify as women. All such crimes should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

Do you think any woman who objects to that is absurd and discriminating against trans men?

I don't know what this question even means. I know the women in my life find the anti-trans movement among the GOP to be abhorrent, to the point they will never, ever under any circumstance consider voting for Republicans anytime in the future because of the dishonest scapegoating that has happened over the last several years. Otherwise, I can't speak for women, as I'm not one.


Now your turn: "By the way, the leaders of your party are also criminals, pedophiles, rapists, predators. Are you really ok with that?"

I won't support any of them if convicted of a crime beyond a misdemeanor.

 

[lawtig02]

I won't support any of them if convicted of a crime beyond a misdemeanor.

What if they avoid convictions because they’re pardoned or pardon themselves?

 

[CFordUNC]

nycfan is going to kill all of us when she comes back and finds this thread

 

[superrific]

I won't support any of them if convicted of a crime beyond a misdemeanor.

You voted for a guy who fits that description. And who absolutely 100% committed other crimes, but managed to get a lackey to toss the charges.

But sure, go ahead with your pathetic bullshit. Have you figured out how timeouts work yet?

 

[Callatoroy]

1. I've never heard anything about him period until last week. Didn't know who he was. So there's that. He's a completely laughable, pathetic, unpatriotic pick regardless.
2. Um, let's think this through. What incentive does a woman have to make a bullshit accusation? None. It usually causes trouble for her and leads to all sorts of backlash effects, including stochastic terrorism and harassment. Christine Blasey Ford, for instance, had to move.

Now, let's think about the man's incentive. Does he have an incentive to lie about a crime he committed? I think even you can figure this one out.

And that's why accusations are more credible than denials.

3. Now, when women have something to gain by a bogus accusation -- let's say in a divorce action -- the situation is different. But this woman had zero incentive to make up a story about a nobody.

In politics, accusations are never more or less credible than denials. Even you can understand the possibility of someone coming out of the woodwork when a high profile political appointment materializes. His reason for the denial and NDA are certainly plausible. Whether you believe him is probably more related to your politics. I neither believe him nor disbelieve him without more information.

 

[superrific]

In politics, accusations are never more or less credible than denials. Even you can understand the possibility of someone coming out of the woodwork when a high profile political appointment materializes. His reason for the denial and NDA are certainly plausible. Whether you believe him is probably more related to your politics. I neither believe him nor disbelieve him without more information.

But the accusation was made long before he got into politics. His own attorney said that he settled because he feared for his job at Fox News (LOL). This was years ago.