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1. If you were to present your favorite and most accurate definition of gender dysphoria, I would bet the farm that it would not change the point that I am trying to make regarding how the two sides are treated.1. That is not actually a description of gender dysphoria. But what do I know? My wife only has about 30 kids in her practice with that condition.
2. There's one easy way to know the bathroom panic is bullshit: it came out of nowhere. Trans people have been around forever. Heck, there were multiple hit rock songs about them. Nobody in the 1970s worried about trans people in bathrooms. Not in the 1980s either. Or the 90s. The first time I ever heard about the bathroom issue was HB1. Hmm.
3. I'm old enough to remember when opposition to gay marriage was always framed as "protecting straight marriage." Do you remember all that bullshit? People saying that if gay people were to marry, it would somehow harm their own marriages.
Do you see the connection? The religious warriors understand that people don't like their real motivations -- i.e. controlling other peoples' private lives -- so they make up bullshit excuses to pretend as if they are merely defending themselves. Gay people can't be in schools because they will hurt our kids (that one has been recently revived after laying dormant for decades)! Trans people will be predators in bathrooms and on sports fields, even though this has never happened before despite the long history of transgenderism and transsexualism. Gay marriages will harm our marriages! Really, we're not trying to control people, we're just protecting ourselves from the other people who want to harm us!
It. Is. All. Bullshit.
The thing about trans in women's sports is simultaneously bullshit and also something that affects so few people that I'd be willing to give it up if it would pacify the culture warriors. But it won't, because that isn't actually what they are concerned about. It's just an excuse.
2&3. I was on the wrong side of the gay marriage topic for some amount of time, but I still changed my views before Obama did. The difference between gay marriage and the question of biological males in women's areas is that gay marriage ultimately impacted nobody. Yes, there were and are evangelical Christians who paint a ridiculous picture regarding the collapse of society due to gay marriage, but nothing ultimately changed by allowing two men or two women to enter into a legal agreement in the eyes of the state.
That is not the case with the question of transgender men and women. Gay men used men's restrooms, showered in men's locker rooms and played men's sports against other males.
What's happening now is that we are supposed to accept males playing in girls sports, males in women's restrooms, locker rooms and showers.
Again, I don't have the answer to the best way to handle this, but it is clear that the two sides of the topic are treated very differently, as the majority of your post once again proved.