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GOP & Policies toward/treatment of Transgender & other LGBTQ Americans

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Did people see the new gory details about the torture and murder of the trans man from MN in NY state? Sam Nordquist?

I'm not going to link it here, because it's incredibly disturbing. One of the most nauseating crimes I've heard of. They even forced their 7 and 12 year old kids to participate in the torture, which apparently went on for a month.

If you want a horror story but also a window into the depths of hate in America, check it out.
 
HeelYeah2012 said:
I don’t disagree with you they’re more popular than ever but they didn’t go to Raleigh for that ahead of a men’s game did they? The women’s game was on Sunday. I assume they did their normal Saturday men’s college gameday too.
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Why is this relevant?
 
UNCatTech said:
Why is this relevant?
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WM said “Gameday was just in Raleigh last week at Reynolds for a women's hoops game” as a way to defend his premise that women’s sports are more popular than ever. I just wanted to point out that it wasn’t like they chose a women’s game for Gameday on a Saturday over doing a men’s game. Apples and oranges.

For the record I agree with the overall point that women’s college sports are gaining popularity.
 
HeelYeah2012 said:
WM said “Gameday was just in Raleigh last week at Reynolds for a women's hoops game” as a way to defend his premise that women’s sports are more popular than ever. I just wanted to point out that it wasn’t like they chose a women’s game for Gameday on a Saturday over doing a men’s game. Apples and oranges.

For the record I agree with the overall point that women’s college sports are gaining popularity.
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Then there was no point because they don't have to choose between the two. It was just an irrelevant statement to project that women still are not as good as men. No need or purpose in that.

Women's sports have increased on their own merits.

And fuck stupid hillbilly Tommy tubberville
 
UNCatTech said:
Then there was no point because they don't have to choose between the two. It was just an irrelevant statement to project that women still are not as good as men. No need or purpose in that.

Women's sports have increased on their own merits.

And fuck stupid hillbilly Tommy tubberville
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No one said women as a gender aren’t as good as men. Quit being so dramatic.

It was relevant to the discussion to point out that ESPN still did their normal men’s college gameday every week this season, no more no less. When I first read WM’s post I thought he meant ESPN had sent their Gameday crew to the NCSU women’s game en lieu of their weekly men’s game, which would’ve been huge news if it had been true, so I felt it needed clarification.

I enjoy women’s sports and watched UNC women’s hoops the past two days at work. Have bought UNC WBB season tickets in recent years.

No idea what your comment about Tuberville is even about.
 
HeelYeah2012 said:
No one said women as a gender aren’t as good as men. Quit being so dramatic.

It was relevant to the discussion to point out that ESPN still did their normal men’s college gameday every week this season, no more no less. When I first read WM’s post I thought he meant ESPN had sent their Gameday crew to the NCSU women’s game en lieu of their weekly men’s game, which would’ve been huge news if it had been true, so I felt it needed clarification.

I enjoy women’s sports and watched UNC women’s hoops the past two days at work. Have bought UNC WBB season tickets in recent years.

No idea what your comment about Tuberville is even about.
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Look at the above post where tubberville claims that women's sports is over because of the high number of male athletes.

The man is so fucking dumb.
 
UNCatTech said:
Look at the above post where tubberville claims that women's sports is over because of the high number of male athletes.

The man is so fucking dumb.
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Ah! I see the Tuberville thing now. Yes, extremely dumb.

Even as someone who supports women’s athletics being a safe space for biological women, Tuberville looks stupid acting like there are entire teams of transgender people dominating women’s sports. Individual athletes here and there? Yes. Entire teams? Clearly not.
 
HeelYeah2012 said:
No one said women as a gender aren’t as good as men. Quit being so dramatic.

It was relevant to the discussion to point out that ESPN still did their normal men’s college gameday every week this season, no more no less. When I first read WM’s post I thought he meant ESPN had sent their Gameday crew to the NCSU women’s game en lieu of their weekly men’s game, which would’ve been huge news if it had been true, so I felt it needed clarification.

I enjoy women’s sports and watched UNC women’s hoops the past two days at work. Have bought UNC WBB season tickets in recent years.

No idea what your comment about Tuberville is even about.
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The way your statement came across is that until women's sport is chosen over men's then it's hasn't improved.

I see them as separate and successful based on their own merit. I don't see any need for comparison as a measurement of success.

I'm not sure how that is dramatic.

Read your post again. I understand your point better now.
 
Two things can be true at the same time. Most (probably nearly all) women's sports are not as popular as the men's equivalent AND Tubberville is a moron who's pulling crap out of his backside.

Neither of those truths are a reflection on females as a gender.
 
ZenMode said:
Two things can be true at the same time. Most (probably nearly all) women's sports are not as popular as the men's equivalent AND Tubberville is a moron who's pulling crap out of his backside.

Neither of those truths are a reflection on females as a gender.
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Yeah, think we are all in agreement with all of the above. Nothing controversial in your post at all.
 
Zoo_View said:
Tuberville isn’t making such comments because he’s a moron.

He’s telling these lies because he’s mendacious AND it curries favor and support among MAGAts, Trumplicans, and GOPers.
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It is so very sad that people will believe these blatant lies when it's so easy to lookup the numbers.

Tubberville is a fucking idiot. Did he ever stop holding up military confirmations?
 
ZenMode said:

Trans high school track star sparks fury after winning girls’ triple jump by staggering 8 feet​


nypost.com

Trans high school track star sparks fury after winning girls’ triple jump by staggering 8 feet

Her run of track victories has sparked fury online — with critics quickly accusing her of having an unfair advantage.
nypost.com nypost.com
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So, Hernandez is quite good and has a reasonable chance to win the state title for the first time in her career after significant year over year improvement. For whatever reason, her opponents in that meet had uncompetitive jumps based on California HS stats I checked. That may be normal in HS girl’s Triple Jump — maybe only a few are really competitive on a state-title level. Or maybe she has gone from solid to dominant between her junior and senior year for some reason.
 
nycfan said:
So, Hernandez is quite good and has a reasonable chance to win the state title for the first time in her career after significant year over year improvement. For whatever reason, her opponents in that meet had uncompetitive jumps based on California HS stats I checked. That may be normal in HS girl’s Triple Jump — maybe only a few are really competitive on a state-title level. Or maybe she has gone from solid to dominant between her junior and senior year for some reason.
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Don't encourage him. Not on this subject.

He thinks pulling an example out every few months changes the fact that trans female athletes are still less than .001% of the population.
 
UNCatTech said:
Don't encourage him. Not on this subject.

He thinks pulling an example out every few months changes the fact that trans female athletes are still less than .001% of the population.
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I responded b/c this story has gotten a lot of national coverage, so knowing little about the TJ I was curious about how extreme this result was.
 
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