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Trump has demonstrated particular disdain for Haitians for a while …

www.nytimes.com

Trump’s Derision of Haitians Goes Back Years

Former President Donald J. Trump’s false comments about pet-eating Haitian immigrants are the latest in a pattern of attacks against people from the Caribbean nation.
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“… He [Trump] insisted one afternoon in 2017 that immigrants from Haiti should not be let into the United States, shocking his chief of staff, secretary of state, homeland security secretary and others gathered in the Oval Office by declaring that people from the beleaguered nation “all have AIDS.”

Now, as he runs for a second term, Mr. Trump is once again denigrating Haitians, part of a pattern that goes back years and appears to have its roots in the early 1980s, when the Centers for Disease Control stigmatized Haitians as a particular threat in the spread of AIDS, driving years of panic about the newly discovered disease.

Mr. Trump, a self-described germophobe, has persisted in that debunked belief even though it was formally abandoned by the C.D.C. nearly four decades ago.

… “We have hundreds of thousands of people flowing in from Haiti. Haiti has a tremendous AIDS problem,” the former president told Sean Hannity, the Fox News host, in October 2021. “Many of those people will probably have AIDS, and they’re coming into our country. And we don’t do anything about it.”

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“Wait a minute,” he lectured them in an Oval Office meeting. “Why do we want people from Haiti here?” He said that Haiti was among a series of “shithole countries” whose people had little to offer. Can’t we just leave Haiti out, he asked the lawmakers. The legislation never passed and Mr. Trump worked to make it harder for Haitians to immigrate.

His administration canceled temporary protected status, a program that seeks to provide refuge to people fleeing violence and natural disasters, for tens of thousands of Haitians. And his officials stopped providing temporary work visas for Haitians just before the end of the president’s term.

… In 1982, the C.D.C. warned that the unknown disease was causing cancer and death in four main categories of people that came to be known as the “four H’s”: homosexuals, hemophiliacs, heroin users and Haitians. The agency noted that a cluster of recent immigrants from Haiti had contracted the disease, along with the other groups.

… In fact, health officials say about 2 percent of Haiti’s population — or about 180,000 people — has H.I.V., the virus that causes AIDS. That is a higher percentage than in the United States, but far lower than in many African countries. There is little evidence that many of those infected are immigrating to the United States. …”
 
“… On Wednesday night on Long Island, Trump yet again went after the Haitian community in Springfield. Trump said he would visit the town as he continued to make false claims about the migrants in the city.

“How about in Springfield, Ohio, they had 32,000 – this is a little beautiful town, no crime, no problem – 32,000 illegal immigrants come into the town,” Trump said. “So they almost double their population in a period of a few weeks. Can you believe it? And you know what? They’ve got to get much tougher. I’m going to go there in the next two weeks. I’m going to Springfield.”

“You may never see me again, but that’s okay,” he added. “‘Whatever happened to Trump? Well, he never got out of Springfield.’”

… “So the mayor of Springfield, and I think he’s a very nice person,” Trump continued. “But instead of saying we’re getting them all out ... he says, very simply, ‘we’re hiring teachers to teach them English.’”

“Could you believe it? ‘We are hiring interpreters.’ So when they go to school and take the place of our children in school, we have an interpreter. Each one will have a private interpreter. What the hell is wrong with our country?” he asked.


… The former president said on Wednesday night, “We’re getting them out of our country. They came in illegally. They’re destroying our country. We’re getting them out. They’re going to be brought back to the country from which they came.”

… Meanwhile, Vance doubled down on Wednesday on calling the Haitian migrants in Springfield “illegal” even as they’re here legally.

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“The media loves to say that the Haitian migrants hundreds of thousands of them, by the way, 20,000 in Springfield, but hundreds of thousands of them all across the country, they are here legally,” Vance said. “And what they mean is that Kamala Harris used two separate programs, mass parole, and temporary protective status ... to wave a wand and to say, ‘We’re not going to deport those people here.’”

He added: “Well, if Kamala Harris waves the wand illegally and says these people are now here legally, I’m still going to call them an illegal alien. And illegal action from Kamala Harris does not make an alien legal. That is not how this works.” …”

www.independent.co.uk

Trump says Haitian migrants are ‘destroying’ US as he vows to visit Springfield

‘You may never see me again, but that’s okay,’ Trump jokes after saying he’ll visit Springfield, city at center of his false claims that migrants are eating people’s dogs and cats
www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk
 
mpaer said:
I guess G-d doesn't make Haitian babies
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Well, from reading many Facebook posts from Evangelical women about their kids, you get the clear impression that their little darlings just came straight from God and were never conceived through something as low and sinful as sex, so maybe they think Haitian kids are different.

And on a serious note, yes, we're now in the straight up using racism and nativism and sexism and xenophobia phase of the Trump campaign. At this rate they may well be using the "n" word openly by mid-October. My guess is that both Trump and Vance's campaign staffs have concluded that their only chance to win now is to try and drive their base into an absolute frenzy of fear and terror over immigrant hordes overrunning their towns and cities such as they claim as happened in Springfield, and so they're going all out on the racism/nativism/xenophobia angle. It's a very simple and very brutal and very nasty message: Vote for Democrats and black or brown immigrants will take over your town and do terrible things to you and your family and your white neighbors. Trump has been preaching that message since he came down that escalator in 2015, and with Springfield he's going to try and ride that issue to victory yet again.
 
Mulberry Heel said:
Well, from reading many Facebook posts from Evangelical women about their kids, you get the clear impression that their little darlings just came straight from God and were never conceived through something as low and sinful as sex, so maybe they think Haitian kids are different.

And on a serious note, yes, we're now in the straight up using racism and nativism and sexism and xenophobia phase of the Trump campaign. At this rate they may well be using the "n" word openly by mid-October. My guess is that both Trump and Vance's campaign staffs have concluded that their only chance to win now is to try and drive their base into an absolute frenzy of fear and terror over immigrant hordes overrunning their towns and cities such as they claim as happened in Springfield, and so they're going all out on the racism/nativism/xenophobia angle. It's a very simple and very brutal and very nasty message: Vote for Democrats and black or brown immigrants will take over your town and do terrible things to you and your family and your white neighbors. Trump has been preaching that message since he came down that escalator in 2015, and with Springfield he's going to try and ride that issue to victory yet again.
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Yep

The GQP campaign(s) strategies have been reduced to :

1 ) Amp up fear that black and brown people are coming to get you ( and your pets )

2 ) Voter suppression/nullification

such a sad, pathetic , and dangerous party...
 
nycfan said:
Trump has demonstrated particular disdain for Haitians for a while …

www.nytimes.com

Trump’s Derision of Haitians Goes Back Years

Former President Donald J. Trump’s false comments about pet-eating Haitian immigrants are the latest in a pattern of attacks against people from the Caribbean nation.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com

“… He [Trump] insisted one afternoon in 2017 that immigrants from Haiti should not be let into the United States, shocking his chief of staff, secretary of state, homeland security secretary and others gathered in the Oval Office by declaring that people from the beleaguered nation “all have AIDS.”

Now, as he runs for a second term, Mr. Trump is once again denigrating Haitians, part of a pattern that goes back years and appears to have its roots in the early 1980s, when the Centers for Disease Control stigmatized Haitians as a particular threat in the spread of AIDS, driving years of panic about the newly discovered disease.

Mr. Trump, a self-described germophobe, has persisted in that debunked belief even though it was formally abandoned by the C.D.C. nearly four decades ago.

… “We have hundreds of thousands of people flowing in from Haiti. Haiti has a tremendous AIDS problem,” the former president told Sean Hannity, the Fox News host, in October 2021. “Many of those people will probably have AIDS, and they’re coming into our country. And we don’t do anything about it.”

…
“Wait a minute,” he lectured them in an Oval Office meeting. “Why do we want people from Haiti here?” He said that Haiti was among a series of “shithole countries” whose people had little to offer. Can’t we just leave Haiti out, he asked the lawmakers. The legislation never passed and Mr. Trump worked to make it harder for Haitians to immigrate.

His administration canceled temporary protected status, a program that seeks to provide refuge to people fleeing violence and natural disasters, for tens of thousands of Haitians. And his officials stopped providing temporary work visas for Haitians just before the end of the president’s term.

… In 1982, the C.D.C. warned that the unknown disease was causing cancer and death in four main categories of people that came to be known as the “four H’s”: homosexuals, hemophiliacs, heroin users and Haitians. The agency noted that a cluster of recent immigrants from Haiti had contracted the disease, along with the other groups.

… In fact, health officials say about 2 percent of Haiti’s population — or about 180,000 people — has H.I.V., the virus that causes AIDS. That is a higher percentage than in the United States, but far lower than in many African countries. There is little evidence that many of those infected are immigrating to the United States. …”
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GD, this is George Wallace without the n-word.
 
HeelingAg said:
GD, this is George Wallace without the n-word.
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What I remember about people like Wallace, when speaking publically, instead of finishing the n-word with "ger," they would finish it with "gra." And to them, making this slight change in pronunciation somehow cleansed a vile word. But because of the vileness of the people who believed the "gra" ending make the word acceptable for public use, the "gra" ending always made me more angry than the "ger" ending.
 
05C40 said:
What I remember about people like Wallace, when speaking publically, instead of finishing the n-word with "ger," they would finish it with "gra." And to them, making this slight change in pronunciation somehow cleansed a vile word. But because of the vileness of the people who believed the "gra" ending make the word acceptable for public use, the "gra" ending always made me more angry than the "ger" ending.
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One of my grandfathers used “nigra” for that reason. Even as a kid, I’d say to him, “They’re black, not nigra.”
 
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