GOP slouches into the Crazy -IMMIGRATION | Trump Firehose of anti-immigrant posts and rhetoric

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Mulberry Heel said:
I'd love to ask Dave to explain exactly how Haitian immigrants are affecting his life and quality of life. My guess is he wouldn't be able to answer, because they haven't. So much for Christ's teaching about being welcoming of strangers. And this whole incident also shows the total hypocrisy of all these churches and Christian missionaries around the country who have traveled to Haiti over the years to help people there. In Haiti they're poor people who need God's love and help from American Christians. When they immigrate here these same Christians evidently want nothing to do with them, and almost no Evangelicals have spoken up in their defense.
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He's picking up canned goods from a food shelter. Of course he's going to blame anyone but himself for his lot in life. Typical Trumpist asshole.
 
I've decided that the Trump's potential visit to Springfield is because his campaign has realized that when voters hear Kama Harris' message she wins and he loses.

This is a conscious decision to suck all the oxygen out of the room so her voice can't get though. How much coverage of her recent interviews has broken through? Basically none.

Also, the "sometime in the next two weeks" is a deliberate stratagem. He's using the uncertainty and extended timeline to milk it for all it's worth.
 
Ddseddse said:
I've decided that the Trump's potential visit to Springfield is because his campaign has realized that when voters hear Kama Harris' message she wins and he loses.

This is a conscious decision to suck all the oxygen out of the room so her voice can't get though. How much coverage of her recent interviews has broken through? Basically none.

Also, the "sometime in the next two weeks" is a deliberate stratagem. He's using the uncertainty and extended timeline to milk it for all it's worth.
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When they basically proclaimed they were going to get nasty from here out until the election, this is the exact strategy. Just take up all the airspace possible, and then treat that as if Harris is hiding out because the media doesnt want to cover normal, they want to cover batshit insanity.
 


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By Mike DeWine

Mr. DeWine, a Republican, is the governor of Ohio.
I was born in Springfield, Ohio. My wife, Fran, and I have lived our entire lives less than 10 miles from this city.

When we were dating in high school, we would go there to see movies at the Regent or State Theater or to eat fried clams at Howard Johnson’s. I remember Fran taking the bus about eight miles from our hometown, Yellow Springs, to Springfield to shop at Wren’s Department Store. Over the years, we’ve eaten countless doughnuts from Schuler’s Bakery, worshiped at St. Raphael Catholic Church and we logged many work hours there when I represented Springfield in the U.S. House and Senate.

Springfield has a rich history of providing refuge for the oppressed and being a place of opportunity. As a stop on the Underground Railroad, the Gammon House, which still stands, was a safe haven for escaped slaves seeking freedom. And, as a stop on the Old National Road, America’s first east/west federal highway, Springfield attracted many settlers both before and after the Civil War. Immigrants from Ireland, Greece, Germany, Italy and other countries helped build the city into what it is today.

...Now, however, Springfield is having a resurgence in manufacturing and job creation. Some of that is thanks to the dramatic influx of Haitian migrants who have arrived in the city over the past three years to fill jobs.

They are there legally. They are there to work.

It is disappointing to me that Springfield has become the epicenter of vitriol over America’s immigration policy, because it has long been a community of great diversity.

... Bomb threats — all hoaxes — continue and temporarily closed at least two schools, put the hospital on lockdown and shuttered City Hall. The two local colleges have gone remote. I have posted Ohio Highway Patrol troopers in each school building in Springfield so the schools can remain open, teachers and children can feel safe and students can continue to learn.

On the troopers’ first day in the schools, Fran and I visited Simon Kenton Elementary, where reassured teachers told us: “Yesterday was rough. Today was a good day.” ..."
 
nycfan said:


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By Mike DeWine

Mr. DeWine, a Republican, is the governor of Ohio.
I was born in Springfield, Ohio. My wife, Fran, and I have lived our entire lives less than 10 miles from this city.

When we were dating in high school, we would go there to see movies at the Regent or State Theater or to eat fried clams at Howard Johnson’s. I remember Fran taking the bus about eight miles from our hometown, Yellow Springs, to Springfield to shop at Wren’s Department Store. Over the years, we’ve eaten countless doughnuts from Schuler’s Bakery, worshiped at St. Raphael Catholic Church and we logged many work hours there when I represented Springfield in the U.S. House and Senate.

Springfield has a rich history of providing refuge for the oppressed and being a place of opportunity. As a stop on the Underground Railroad, the Gammon House, which still stands, was a safe haven for escaped slaves seeking freedom. And, as a stop on the Old National Road, America’s first east/west federal highway, Springfield attracted many settlers both before and after the Civil War. Immigrants from Ireland, Greece, Germany, Italy and other countries helped build the city into what it is today.

...Now, however, Springfield is having a resurgence in manufacturing and job creation. Some of that is thanks to the dramatic influx of Haitian migrants who have arrived in the city over the past three years to fill jobs.

They are there legally. They are there to work.

It is disappointing to me that Springfield has become the epicenter of vitriol over America’s immigration policy, because it has long been a community of great diversity.

... Bomb threats — all hoaxes — continue and temporarily closed at least two schools, put the hospital on lockdown and shuttered City Hall. The two local colleges have gone remote. I have posted Ohio Highway Patrol troopers in each school building in Springfield so the schools can remain open, teachers and children can feel safe and students can continue to learn.

On the troopers’ first day in the schools, Fran and I visited Simon Kenton Elementary, where reassured teachers told us: “Yesterday was rough. Today was a good day.” ..."
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That’s all well and good, but unless he comes out and tells Trump and Vance to shut the fuck up, he’s still at Susan Collin’s-level of disapproval.
 
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As a supporter of former President Donald Trump and Senator JD Vance, I am saddened by how they and others continue to repeat claims that lack evidence and disparage the legal migrants living in Springfield. This rhetoric hurts the city and its people, and it hurts those who have spent their lives there.

The Biden administration’s failure to control the southern border is a very important issue that Mr. Trump and Mr. Vance are talking about and one that the American people are rightfully deeply concerned about. But their verbal attacks against these Haitians — who are legally present in the United States — dilute and cloud what should be a winning argument about the border.

... Only about a two-hour flight from U.S. shores, Haiti is one of the poorest, most dangerous places on earth. The government is in shambles, with machete-wielding, machine-gun-toting gang members taking over 80 percent of the capital, Port-au-Prince.

Fran and I first traveled to Haiti almost 30 years ago as part of a congressional delegation when I was serving on the U.S. Senate Select Committee on Intelligence. We have since been there over 20 times and have supported a Catholic priest who runs a tuition-free school in a slum in Port-au-Prince.

We have always been amazed when, even in the poorest areas of Haiti, we see children coming out of homes made of rusting corrugated metal and cardboard with shoes shined and clothes neat and pressed. We know that the Haitian people want the same things we all want — a good job, the chance to get a quality education and the ability to raise a family in a safe and secure environment. Haitian migrants have gone to Springfield because of the jobs and chance for a better life there.

... Their work will continue long after this fall’s election is over and the national spotlight turns away from Springfield. But in the meantime, our people and our history deserve better than to be falsely portrayed.

...In 1960, when I was 13 years old, my parents and I went to see the Republican candidate for president, Richard Nixon, when his train came through Springfield, and four years later to see Barry Goldwater as his train also stopped in the middle of Springfield as he traveled across the Midwest. They both talked about the prospects for the future.

Springfield today has a very bright future. The people who live there love their families, value education, work hard, care about one another and tackle the challenges they face head-on, just as they have done for over 200 years.

I am proud of this community, and America should be, too."
 
DeWine: Don’t speak poorly about the immigrants in Ohio! Focus your negativity on the other immigrants!

I am going to assume he is only concerned about how all of this negative press is affecting his political future, until he proves that theory wrong.
 
ChileG said:
DeWine: Don’t speak poorly about the immigrants in Ohio! Focus your negativity on the other immigrants!

I am going to assume he is only concerned about how all of this negative press is affecting his political future, until he proves that theory wrong.
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I think Ohio was very lucky to have him as governor during the pandemic (especially compared to a lot of other Ohio politicians), and I am glad he is speaking up here.

But this is definitely an instance where I think he needed to be even more forceful.
 
nycfan said:
I think Ohio was very lucky to have him as governor during the pandemic (especially compared to a lot of other Ohio politicians), and I am glad he is speaking up here.

But this is definitely an instance where I think he needed to be even more forceful.
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Ideally, yes, but that’s a pretty dang strong statement for a Pub governor in a red state. Will be very interesting to see what he does if Trump actually visits.
 
nycfan said:
I think Ohio was very lucky to have him as governor during the pandemic (especially compared to a lot of other Ohio politicians), and I am glad he is speaking up here.

But this is definitely an instance where I think he needed to be even more forceful.
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Very good point.
I appreciate him speaking truth to the MAGAs. I suppose politics being what they are the “focus on the border” talk may just be a bone he has to toss.
 
Mulberry Heel said:
I'd love to ask Dave to explain exactly how Haitian immigrants are affecting his life and quality of life. My guess is he wouldn't be able to answer, because they haven't. So much for Christ's teaching about being welcoming of strangers. And this whole incident also shows the total hypocrisy of all these churches and Christian missionaries around the country who have traveled to Haiti over the years to help people there. In Haiti the citizens are poor people who need God's love and help from American Christians. But when they immigrate here these same Christians evidently want nothing to do with them, and almost no Evangelicals have spoken up in their defense.
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Remember George Carlin’s line, “Not in my backyard.”
 
So it looks like having more Haitians in Springfield lowers the crime rate...

www.rawstory.com

Republican chief prosecutor obliterates J.D. Vance's claims on Haitian immigrant crime

Daniel Driscoll, the Republican chief prosecutor for Clark County, which includes Springfield, Ohio, is calling out Sen. J.D. Vance (R-OH) for lying about crime statistics to create a story that the city is being overrun with violence. Driscoll spoke to CNN's fact-checker Daniel Dale after Vance...
www.rawstory.com www.rawstory.com
 
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