Heels vs Horned Frogs

Mundial said:
This is constantly ignored by Fedora haters. Not only did we make the ACC Championship game, we were competitive despite very biased officiating (in my view). While Fedora may not have been loved by high school coaches, I think that was overblown and Mack was recruiting big time from states not named North Carolina. I also think NC HS coaches would have come around as not everyone player can go to NCSucks and these HS coaches would need to show they could place players at NC's flagship university.

We were never competitive (and rarely present) in an ACC title game since then.
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Fedora was accomplished
What struck me was he "lost it" the last year or two Remember at the preseason presser when he ragged on about Brain injuries-insinuating they were not a big deal
That was odd I guess by then he saw the writing on the wall and was pissed??
 
We had an insane amount of injuries Fedora's last 2 years here - I heard some of that was we didn't have a practice field so Kenan was torn up from overuse
 
Mundial said:
This is constantly ignored by Fedora haters. Not only did we make the ACC Championship game, we were competitive despite very biased officiating (in my view). While Fedora may not have been loved by high school coaches, I think that was overblown and Mack was recruiting big time from states not named North Carolina. I also think NC HS coaches would have come around as not everyone player can go to NCSucks and these HS coaches would need to show they could place players at NC's flagship university.

We were never competitive (and rarely present) in an ACC title game since then.
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I'm not a Fedora hater, I think he was a good choice to lead the program that unfortunately didn't work out in the long term.

The problem Fedora had by the time he was let go was that the bloom was off the rose and recruiting had bottomed out with it. He had shown that defense was not a priority under his leadership and therefore we were not getting any great or better defensive recruits. And with a thoroughly mediocre defense, at best, offensive recruiting and production had to be elite just to create a decent or better overall team...which Fedora was no longer doing.

I liked Fedora and hated to see it end the way it did. He got us as close as any coach since 1980 to an ACC championship (including Mack 1.0) and unfortunately came up just short when he had the opportunity. But I also didn't see much realistic reasons for optimism under Fedora and so he had to go.
 
SnoopRob said:
I'm not a Fedora hater, I think he was a good choice to lead the program that unfortunately didn't work out in the long term.

The problem Fedora had by the time he was let go was that the bloom was off the rose and recruiting had bottomed out with it. He had shown that defense was not a priority under his leadership and therefore we were not getting any great or better defensive recruits. And with a thoroughly mediocre defense, at best, offensive recruiting and production had to be elite just to create a decent or better overall team...which Fedora was no longer doing.

I liked Fedora and hated to see it end the way it did. He got us as close as any coach since 1980 to an ACC championship (including Mack 1.0) and unfortunately came up just short when he had the opportunity. But I also didn't see much realistic reasons for optimism under Fedora and so he had to go.
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And unfortunately, the powers that be have decided to go with the retirement tour multiple times since then
 
uncjhodges said:
And unfortunately, the powers that be have decided to go with the retirement tour multiple times since then
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The interesting thing is I think that Mack 2.0 would have worked reasonably well had he stepped down voluntarily after year 3 or year 4. He would have rebuilt the roster through recruiting and rebuilt a good amount of goodwill throughout the state and the fan base.

But then he hung on for 2 more years and all of that good went out with him.
 
SnoopRob said:
The interesting thing is I think that Mack 2.0 would have worked reasonably well had he stepped down voluntarily after year 3 or year 4. He would have rebuilt the roster through recruiting and rebuilt a good amount of goodwill throughout the state and the fan base.

But then he hung on for 2 more years and all of that good went out with him.
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For sure, It would have been best case scenario. Orange Bowl year 2, but disappointing year 3. Recruiting was pretty
good and Drake was coming in so plenty to sell. Instead he hired his buddy at DC, ran off the only successful coordinator and hired Chip Lindsey. Then doubled down and came back after Drake (i assume his ego wouldn’t let him quit that close to 300)
 
SnoopRob said:
The interesting thing is I think that Mack 2.0 would have worked reasonably well had he stepped down voluntarily after year 3 or year 4. He would have rebuilt the roster through recruiting and rebuilt a good amount of goodwill throughout the state and the fan base.

But then he hung on for 2 more years and all of that good went out with him.
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Just like at Texas. Hard to leave on top sometimes.
 
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