Helene Recovery & Info

[mpaer]

Are we sure the recovery folks want to have to deal with college students while trying to do recovery efforts?

Yea
The "good side " is I assumme these college kids spend a lot of money at Restaurants, bars etc

 

[fuheel]

Asheville is well known for its brewery scene.

They have been devastated.

Highland and hi wire particularly sound bad off

Asheville breweries 'devastated' by Helene flooding: 'Closed indefinitely'

Asheville breweries, which attract locals and tourists to the city, are reeling in the aftermath of Tropical Storm Helene.

www.citizen-times.com

I saw pictures of Wedge and New Belgium. NB is pretty far above the French Broad, but even with that elevation it looked pretty hard hit. Wedge was underwater. There are a lot of smaller ones that were likely destroyed - I'm thinking of Zillicoah.

 

[uncgriff]

I saw pictures of Wedge and New Belgium. NB is pretty far above the French Broad, but even with that elevation it looked pretty hard hit. Wedge was underwater. There are a lot of smaller ones that were likely destroyed - I'm thinking of Zillicoah.

Burial likely got buried. They are in a low lying area as I recall.

 

[nycfan]

 

[nycfan]

Are we sure the recovery folks want to have to deal with college students while trying to do recovery efforts?

Probably not but potentially a good source of labor for labor-intensive months ahead.

 

[fuheel]

Burial likely got buried. They are in a low lying area as I recall

Burial likely got buried. They are in a low lying area as I recall.

The original burial location on the south slope should be fine. I saw a social media post that their kitchen was serving hot meals from the south slope location.
I’ve never been to their forestry camp site, so can’t speculate on how it is.
The breweries most affected were by the French broad or another river (all in the RAD, NB, zillicoah, etc)

 

[grimes70]

That's horrific

Curious, I looked up where this was. Rollins Road is literally riverside... Right at the banks.. To not have evacuated seems mind-blowing

As a long time Madison Co property owner once I saw Rollins Rd I knew it would be bad. Here's a video of downtown Marshall where I often went for hardware, breakfast and whatnot.

 

[nycfan]

 

[altmin]

MSNBC reporter on the ground in Asheville says the River Arts District is just gone.

 

[altmin]

Thread on ASheville information and resources

 

[grimes70]

I just got off the phone with my old closest neighbor (.8 mile down dirt rd) In Madison Co. As I figured, the folks who bought my place are screwed. The bridge over the creek on their driveway/road totally washed away leaving them stranded vehicularly. Further downstream the 2 ford crossings with a by-pass is impassable even if they could have driven there. No power of course. Lots of downed trees. They will not be a high priority for road and power repair. Are currently waiting at the neighbor's for a time when they can somehow be transported to some unknown where. My neighbor expects power soon as he is close to a paved road. They were from Oregon where all their people are.

Just one household in one holler.

 

[mpaer]

I just got off the phone with my old closest neighbor (.8 mile down dirt rd) In Madison Co. As I figured, the folks who bought my place are screwed. The bridge over the creek on their driveway/road totally washed away leaving them stranded vehicularly. Further downstream the 2 ford crossings with a by-pass is impassable even if they could have driven there. No power of course. Lots of downed trees. They will not be a high priority for road and power repair. Are currently waiting at the neighbor's for a time when they can somehow be transported to some unknown where. My neighbor expects power soon as he is close to a paved road. They were from Oregon where all their people are.

Just one household in one holler.

I assume they and your place may get power by Halloween. All those little bridges...........

 

[grimes70]

I assume they and your place may get power by Halloween. All those little bridges...........

I never had power. When they bought the place I mention that it was not unusual for branches/trees to fall in big storms. Ideally you would run power underground but that means big dollars especially in that terrain.

 

[4thgenheel]

Lol



Spoke with a good friend by phone today that lives in exactly the type of community that you describe. She and her family were in the last vehicle to make out of their holler over a makeshift bridge. She’s a 4th generation Buncumber and not prone to exagerration. She said she had watched the homes of her friends slide down hillsides into the water and be carried away. She added that she figured that there were around 100 people dead in her community. I asked her if she had seen bodies and she said yes. This was about 15 miles east of AVL. This seems incredible but she was serious. And quite shaken.

yeah, there are hundreds if not thousands of little hollers like this all over WNC.

i've spent time in so many of those areas and thinking about the devastation all of those folks are dealing with right now is heartbreaking.

i highly doubt that the cute little house that i stayed in on wilson creek last june is still standing.

 

[aGDevil2k]

yeah, there are hundreds if not thousands of little hollers like this all over WNC.

i've spent time in so many of those areas and thinking about the devastation all of those folks are dealing with right now is heartbreaking.

i highly doubt that the cute little house that i stayed in on wilson creek last june is still standing.

The Wilson Creek area is likely unimaginable. It's hard to reach that stretch on sunny days - gravel roads, some single lane, etc. I hike up in the Lost Cove/Harper Creek area and when you stumble across that little Holler along Gragg Prong, I am thinking "yeah that's just gone...." - I mean, they are 6+ miles on single lane gravel roads from the nearest paved road. Getting out in that storm, once it started, was likely impossible.

Wilson Creek itself? Eeeesh. Those little homes and shacks are likely obliterated

 

[4thgenheel]

The Wilson Creek area is likely unimaginable. It's hard to reach that stretch on sunny days - gravel roads, some single lane, etc. I hike up in the Lost Cove/Harper Creek area and when you stumble across that little Holler along Gragg Prong, I am thinking "yeah that's just gone...." - I mean, they are 6+ miles on single lane gravel roads from the nearest paved road. Getting out in that storm, once it started, was likely impossible.

Wilson Creek itself? Eeeesh. Those little homes and shacks are likely obliterated

i absolutely love that area. so quiet and remote. my dad first started taking me camping at mortimer when i was a toddler. i love all of those trails....harper creek, lost cove, gragg prong, huntfish, etc. etc. gragg prong has one of the coolest swimming holes on earth.

like you said, it takes a hell of a long time to get in or out of there on a beautiful day. i'm sure those gravel roads are gone. heartbreaking stuff.

 

[Ddseddse]

i absolutely love that area. so quiet and remote. my dad first started taking me camping at mortimer when i was a toddler. i love all of those trails....harper creek, lost cove, gragg prong, huntfish, etc. etc. gragg prong has one of the coolest swimming holes on earth.

like you said, it takes a hell of a long time to get in or out of there on a beautiful day. i'm sure those gravel roads are gone. heartbreaking stuff.

Some of my favorite backpacking memories are of Wilson Creek... like the time my brother and got all the way in and discovered we had neglected to bring a source of fire... good times.

 

[grimes70]

The Wilson Creek area is likely unimaginable. It's hard to reach that stretch on sunny days - gravel roads, some single lane, etc. I hike up in the Lost Cove/Harper Creek area and when you stumble across that little Holler along Gragg Prong, I am thinking "yeah that's just gone...." - I mean, they are 6+ miles on single lane gravel roads from the nearest paved road. Getting out in that storm, once it started, was likely impossible.

Wilson Creek itself? Eeeesh. Those little homes and shacks are likely obliterated

One of my old dorm buddie's wife's family leased a spot from the Forest Service on Wilson Cr. - a bit before Edgemont - until a few years ago. Wonderful place to camp. Weekends in the summer could be quite crowded downstream though. Fun tubing.

 

[Icky Mettle]

MSNBC reporter on the ground in Asheville says the River Arts District is just gone.

It’s all so sad, with all the areas that have been absolutely destroyed. But having spent so much time in the River Arts District and having art on our walls that we bought from an artist whose studio is/was there— including a piece that is the focal point of our main room— this really hits me hard.

 

[gregh1]

I've said "i'd kill to live up in the NC mtns by these windy little creeks and rivers". Places between Hendo and Dupont forest, or anywhere around Pisgah, Nantahala, Wilson's creek, Panthertown, etc. Despite the risks, I could be talked into buying and building/rebuilding something. You can look beyond the muddy roads and detritus in the current pics and it's still an amazing place. It wouldn't be fancy given the lack of flood insurance, but i'd still do it. Humans are short-sighted.