How will a Trump presidency affect you?

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bridgetender said:
The little bit of silver lining to me is that statistically, Trump is not long for this earth, and a lot of the MAGA movement is cult of personality. Hopefully, his minions won't destroy future democracy with the power they are soon to have.
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I think the problem is much bigger than trump. The internet won this vote. The amount of people I saw on facebook alone pushing the gotv narrative and how many of them upon search were first time voters who don't follow politics like any was wild.
 
HeelYeah2012 said:
It’s far more likely we’ll be Hungary than it is that we’ll continue to succeed? You do realize Trump has already been the president once, right?
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And you do realize that Trump himself is far more viscerally angry with far fewer guardrails and far worse people surrounding him?

You have no clue what's coming and worse is that you won't admit it when it does.
 
wmheel1287 said:
And you do realize that Trump himself is far more viscerally angry with far fewer guardrails and far worse people surrounding him?

You have no clue what's coming and worse is that you won't admit it when it does.
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That’s precisely why I think we need for the GOP to hold all three branches, including both chambers of Congress. They’re inheriting record low unemployment, inflation that has been completely tamed, lowered interest rates, and the most robust stock market in history- with currently no end in sight for any of the above. When the Republicans break it, they bought it.
 
CFordUNC said:
That’s precisely why I think we need for the GOP to hold all three branches, including both chambers of Congress. They’re inheriting record low unemployment, inflation that has been completely tamed, lowered interest rates, and the most robust stock market in history- with currently no end in sight for any of the above. When the Republicans break it, they bought it.
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Oh I've said the same thing for weeks....if Trump wins, i want them to have all 3 branches.

Hell, i somewhat darkly hoped Robinson would be governor.

They are never going to allow progress on anything meaningful so let them go fucking hogwild and kill a few million Americans and an economy in the process. Thats about the only way the electorate MIGHT see how insane they really are.

That or they'll have to admit that the shit they say is all 100% nonsense and they never had any intention of delivering.
 
wmheel1287 said:
Oh I've said the same thing for weeks....if Trump wins, i want them to have all 3 branches.

Hell, i somewhat darkly hoped Robinson would be governor.

They are never going to allow progress on anything meaningful so let them go fucking hogwild and kill a few million Americans and an economy in the process. Thats about the only way the electorate MIGHT see how insane they really are.

That or they'll have to admit that the shit they say is all 100% nonsense and they never had any intention of delivering.
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There will ALWAYS be an excuse. Always.
 
As a tax payer i, along with everybody else who paid off their own student loans, won’t have to subsidize anymore crybabies student loans so that is a great thing. Time to man up and show some responsibility. You borrow it, you pay it just like everyone else did. As well, it takes a pretty low person to want those who didn’t go to college, or couldn’t go for whatever reason to have to pay other’s student loans.
 
It will be interesting to see what Gov Stein and AG Jackson do if ICE trys a big "roundemup" in NC
I would "guess" just for grins orangeturds people might do it a "Blue " area.
If you really want to easily gather up a bunch of these hard working folk-just raid a meat packing Plant. But that would be discouraged by the proBig Agri folks in the WH
 
Callatoroy said:
As a tax payer i, along with everybody else who paid off their own student loans, won’t have to subsidize anymore crybabies student loans so that is a great thing. Time to man up and show some responsibility. You borrow it, you pay it just like everyone else did. As well, it takes a pretty low person to want those who didn’t go to college, or couldn’t go for whatever reason to have to pay other’s student loans.
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Should Trump and his campaign pay their bills or nah?
 
Callatoroy said:
As a tax payer i, along with everybody else who paid off their own student loans, won’t have to subsidize anymore crybabies student loans so that is a great thing. Time to man up and show some responsibility. You borrow it, you pay it just like everyone else did. As well, it takes a pretty low person to want those who didn’t go to college, or couldn’t go for whatever reason to have to pay other’s student loans.
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Why? People with no school age children pay taxes for schools. People who don’t go to college pay taxes which support state university systems. The child tax credits are simply everybody subsidizing other peoples’ kids. Renters subsidize homeowners who get mortgage interest deductions. I don’t disagree with these things but we pay taxes for the overall betterment of society. We don’t get to pick and choose at a micro-level what we will pay for and what we won’t.
 
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Shared governance in academia will be under attack. Ironically, proponents of "freedom" and the "free market" will violte those tenants with education.

Best to keep the masses ignorant.

Science funding, ironic with Musk involved, will suffer as well.
 
mpaer said:
It will be interesting to see what Gov Stein and AG Jackson do if ICE trys a big "roundemup" in NC
I would "guess" just for grins orangeturds people might do it a "Blue " area.
If you really want to easily gather up a bunch of these hard working folk-just raid a meat packing Plant. But that would be discouraged by the proBig Agri folks in the WH
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Folks working for the large agribusinesses have a much higher likelihood of skating by, because bribes. Never forget, Trump is deeply racist and revanchist, but he’s also the most easily manipulated and avarice driven human being to ever hold the presidency, the vice presidency, or any cabinet position. For a few mil, Tyson, Monsanto, Cargill, Foster Farms, etc. will be able to keep X% of their undocumented workforces. Therefore, prices will go up bc economies of scale and production go down, while the companies also pass off the bribes and tariff costs to the consumer.

He already ran the most corrupt administration we’ve seen in the modern era, to the point Harding was blushing in his grave.
 
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Callatoroy said:
As a tax payer i, along with everybody else who paid off their own student loans, won’t have to subsidize anymore crybabies student loans so that is a great thing. Time to man up and show some responsibility. You borrow it, you pay it just like everyone else did. As well, it takes a pretty low person to want those who didn’t go to college, or couldn’t go for whatever reason to have to pay other’s student loans.
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You are not subsidizing anyone at all. Your taxes do not depend on fiscal outlays, especially relatively small ones like this. That fact has been established over and over again.

And people not going to college are not paying for anyone's student loans. They don't pay much tax period.

It takes a much lower person to wish vengeance upon people for whom college didn't work out that well. A lot of people with big student loan bills are people who took out money and couldn't finish school for one reason or another -- whether it was poor performance or personal tragedy. If they started a business and failed, they could wipe out their debts in bankruptcy. Not so with student loans.

I had a student whose brother was a competitive skier and who died in a freak skiing accident. She withdrew from school in April because she was too devastated to take her finals. She did not return. 3 semesters of law school. I had another student who withdrew when her husband came back from Afghanistan with a traumatic brain injury. She was in her 5th semester. She did not return. I had another student who got cancer. She actually stayed in school for three semesters while receiving chemo.

But hey, who gives a shit about those people.

That last student had one of the saddest stories I've ever heard. She was a Roma woman who was raped by Serbian soldiers as a young teen. She got pregnant, and because of her traditional culture, she was shunned by much of her family and abortion would have meant exile. So she resettled in the US. Meanwhile, she developed severe epilepsy and had a rescue dog accompany her everywhere. Then she got cancer. Died about a year after she would have graduated.

And the reason I know a lot about her was that she confided in me because some of the other professors were super-assholish to her. There were professors who were really unhappy about the prospect of having a rescue dog in class. They didn't exactly tell her she couldn't, but she made it uncomfortable enough that she had to change sections multiple times. There were like 5-8 law professors she trusted. It kind of sucked for her, because she hated corporate law, but she took my classes anyway because she knew I would always be an ally.
 
farce© said:
Why? People with no school age children pay taxes for schools. People who don’t go to college pay taxes which support state university systems. The child tax credits are simply everybody subsidizing other peoples’ kids. Renters subsidize homeowners who get mortgage interest deductions. I don’t disagree with this things but we pay taxes for the overall betterment of society. We don’t get to pick and choose an a micro-level what we will pay for and what we won’t.
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Simply reimburse everyone who sacrificed and paid back their student loans. Wasn’t easy to pay them back and I’m sure everyone who did would have rather had that money to spend elsewhere. If you are too stupid to figure out your ed. costs vs your expected earnings and make responsible choices as to where you attend college, major, how much you borrowed, etc., then you are to stupid to be in college.
 
superrific said:
You are not subsidizing anyone at all. Your taxes do not depend on fiscal outlays, especially relatively small ones like this. That fact has been established over and over again.

And people not going to college are not paying for anyone's student loans. They don't pay much tax period.

It takes a much lower person to wish vengeance upon people for whom college didn't work out that well. A lot of people with big student loan bills are people who took out money and couldn't finish school for one reason or another -- whether it was poor performance or personal tragedy. If they started a business and failed, they could wipe out their debts in bankruptcy. Not so with student loans.

I had a student whose brother was a competitive skier and who died in a freak skiing accident. She withdrew from school in April because she was too devastated to take her finals. She did not return. 3 semesters of law school. I had another student who withdrew when her husband came back from Afghanistan with a traumatic brain injury. She was in her 5th semester. She did not return. I had another student who got cancer. She actually stayed in school for three semesters while receiving chemo.

But hey, who gives a shit about those people.

That last student had one of the saddest stories I've ever heard. She was a Roma woman who was raped by Serbian soldiers as a young teen. She got pregnant, and because of her traditional culture, she was shunned by much of her family and abortion would have meant exile. So she resettled in the US. Meanwhile, she developed severe epilepsy and had a rescue dog accompany her everywhere. Then she got cancer. Died about a year after she would have graduated.

And the reason I know a lot about her was that she confided in me because some of the other professors were super-assholish to her. There were professors who were really unhappy about the prospect of having a rescue dog in class. They didn't exactly tell her she couldn't, but she made it uncomfortable enough that she had to change sections multiple times. There were like 5-8 law professors she trusted. It kind of sucked for her, because she hated corporate law, but she took my classes anyway because she knew I would always be an ally.
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Then maybe the schools should step up to help in those isolated cases. We all have sad stories. I had an immediate family member die while I was in school. I paid my loans and I'm sure there are hundreds of thousands of people with sad stories who also paid their loans. As for "subsidizing", its still tax money and anyone who pays taxes is having a portion of it go to paying for other's poor choices. Those people in most cases actually have a college education and should be able to pay their loans back. And to say that if you didn't go to college you probably aren't paying taxes is blatantly false.
 
Callatoroy said:
Then maybe the schools should step up to help in those isolated cases. We all have sad stories. I had an immediate family member die while I was in school. I paid my loans and I'm sure there are hundreds of thousands of people with sad stories who also paid their loans. As for "subsidizing", its still tax money and anyone who pays taxes is having a portion of it go to paying for other's poor choices. Those people in most cases actually have a college education and should be able to pay their loans back. And to say that if you didn't go to college you probably aren't paying taxes is blatantly false.
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I didn't say they "probably aren't paying much taxes."

When did you go to school? College was much, much cheaper back then.

It's literally not tax money. It is literally borrowed money.

In many cases, they don't have a college education and that's a big part of the problem.

l'd MUCH rather forgive student loans than pay trillions of dollars to rebuild in flood zones after hurricanes. If you live in Florida, you assume the risk of hurricane damage. We should NOT be bailing out rich homeowners who are too stupid to insure against what happens all the time. But of course, your outrage is always selective. It's always the same with you people. You are so massively insecure about yourselves that you just hate, hate, hate smart educated people. It pores out of your ample sweat glands with every key stroke.
 
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