How will a Trump presidency affect you?

[UNCatTech]

SF immigrants fear deportation after Trump win

President-elect Donald Trump has promised mass deportations on undocumented immigrants, many of whom live in California. Undocumented residents, advocates, and attorneys in San Francisco are already making preparations.

sfstandard.com

I have an idea of how things are going to affect Alex here....


But other undocumented immigrants weren’t bothered by Trump’s plan for mass deportations. Some even supported it.
“I’m an immigrant, and I love Trump,” said Alex, a day laborer who has been undocumented since he came to the U.S. from Nicaragua 28 years ago.
Alex, who works as a mover for U-Haul, said he’s excited by Trump’s promise to more thoroughly vet immigrants into the U.S. The 43-year-old said he supports deportations if they are focused on undocumented immigrants who have committed crimes.
“That’s my fantasy,” Alex said.
He’s supportive of making it harder to enter the country because he believes that when undocumented immigrants commit serious crimes, it makes Americans think they’re all criminals.

Did Alex miss that trump called them all criminals?

Or that trump put no stipulation of being an actual criminal to be deported.

I hope Alex wakes up when he's sent back to Nicaragua.

 

[CFordUNC]

If you think about it, the Democrats are finally “unburdened by what has been”: unburdened from having to always be the adults in the room, unburdened from having to try to govern on behalf of a populace that doesn’t care and doesn’t appreciate successful policy implementation, unburdened from having to always make enormous concessions just to get an extraordinarily watered-down version of their own legislative aims passed. Whatever comes next, the Democrats should not try to stop. Let it happen. This too shall pass, and when it does, the Democrats are already well-versed in having to clean up an economy nuked by Republican administrations. Whatever you do, Dems, for the love of God just let the GOP govern.

 

[lawtig02]

The good news is that, like Barack Obama before him, the outgoing Democratic administration is leaving him an economy that is the best in the world and probably the best in the history of our country, so as long as nobody releases another global pandemic into the wild, we should at least be mostly fine until or unless the tariffs and the deportations actually happen (both of which I’m still, for the time being, partially convinced they are just the 2024 version of “make Mexico pay for the wall”).

It’s been 44 years since a Dem president handed off an economy to a Pub successor that wasn’t in terrific shape. And not a single time in those 44 years has a Pub president done the same for a Dem successor.

 

[finesse]

It’s been 44 years since a Dem president handed off an economy to a Pub successor that wasn’t in terrific shape. And not a single time in those 44 years has a Pub president done the same for a Dem successor.

If you're talking about Carter, he inherited a disaster starting with Nixon and going through Ford. His first guy, Lance, was terrible but about two years in, he hired Paul Volcker. Volcker took some brutal steps, driving the interest rates up to close to 20%. It was a terrible time for me to be a carpenter. Reagan kept him on and even though they got to over 20% by Reagan's second year, it finally broke the cycle

 

[lawtig02]

If you're talking about Carter, he inherited a disaster starting with Nixon and going through Ford. His first guy, Lance, was terrible but about two years in, he hired Paul Volcker. Volcker took some brutal steps, driving the interest rates up to close to 20%. It was a terrible time for me to be a carpenter. Reagan kept him on and even though they got to over 20% by Reagan's second year, it finally broke the cycle

Yeah I’m not blaming Carter. He did fine with impossible economic circumstances. But I don’t think we can say the economy was great in 1981. It was in good shape, though, in 2001 and 2017. Definitely not in good shape in 1993, 2009, or 2021.

 

[finesse]

Yeah I’m not blaming Carter. He did fine with impossible economic circumstances. But I don’t think we can say the economy was great in 1981. It was in good shape, though, in 2001 and 2017. Definitely not in good shape in 1993, 2009, or 2021.

I brought up Carter because I think he's the only one Dem since 1950 to leave the country in bad economic shape. Fwiw, a huge cause of this was Nixon siding with Israel in 1973. That caused the first gas lines and all the OPEC shit that followed.

 

[bridgetender]

The little bit of silver lining to me is that statistically, Trump is not long for this earth, and a lot of the MAGA movement is cult of personality. Hopefully, his minions won't destroy future democracy with the power they are soon to have.

 

[ICFree]

The little bit of silver lining to me is that statistically, Trump is not long for this earth, and a lot of the MAGA movement is cult of personality. Hopefully, his minions won't destroy future democracy with the power they are soon to have.

I think the problem is much bigger than trump. The internet won this vote. The amount of people I saw on facebook alone pushing the gotv narrative and how many of them upon search were first time voters who don't follow politics like any was wild.

 

[wmheel1287]

It’s far more likely we’ll be Hungary than it is that we’ll continue to succeed? You do realize Trump has already been the president once, right?

And you do realize that Trump himself is far more viscerally angry with far fewer guardrails and far worse people surrounding him?

You have no clue what's coming and worse is that you won't admit it when it does.

 

[CFordUNC]

And you do realize that Trump himself is far more viscerally angry with far fewer guardrails and far worse people surrounding him?

You have no clue what's coming and worse is that you won't admit it when it does.

That’s precisely why I think we need for the GOP to hold all three branches, including both chambers of Congress. They’re inheriting record low unemployment, inflation that has been completely tamed, lowered interest rates, and the most robust stock market in history- with currently no end in sight for any of the above. When the Republicans break it, they bought it.

 

[wmheel1287]

That’s precisely why I think we need for the GOP to hold all three branches, including both chambers of Congress. They’re inheriting record low unemployment, inflation that has been completely tamed, lowered interest rates, and the most robust stock market in history- with currently no end in sight for any of the above. When the Republicans break it, they bought it.

Oh I've said the same thing for weeks....if Trump wins, i want them to have all 3 branches.

Hell, i somewhat darkly hoped Robinson would be governor.

They are never going to allow progress on anything meaningful so let them go fucking hogwild and kill a few million Americans and an economy in the process. Thats about the only way the electorate MIGHT see how insane they really are.

That or they'll have to admit that the shit they say is all 100% nonsense and they never had any intention of delivering.

 

[Callatoroy]

As a tax payer i, along with everybody else who paid off their own student loans, won’t have to subsidize anymore crybabies student loans so that is a great thing. Time to man up and show some responsibility. You borrow it, you pay it just like everyone else did. As well, it takes a pretty low person to want those who didn’t go to college, or couldn’t go for whatever reason to have to pay other’s student loans.

 

[mpaer]

It will be interesting to see what Gov Stein and AG Jackson do if ICE trys a big "roundemup" in NC
I would "guess" just for grins orangeturds people might do it a "Blue " area.
If you really want to easily gather up a bunch of these hard working folk-just raid a meat packing Plant. But that would be discouraged by the proBig Agri folks in the WH

 

[wmheel1287]

As a tax payer i, along with everybody else who paid off their own student loans, won’t have to subsidize anymore crybabies student loans so that is a great thing. Time to man up and show some responsibility. You borrow it, you pay it just like everyone else did. As well, it takes a pretty low person to want those who didn’t go to college, or couldn’t go for whatever reason to have to pay other’s student loans.

Should Trump and his campaign pay their bills or nah?

 

[Callatoroy]

Should Trump and his campaign pay their bills or nah?

Certainly, should they ever puss out and beg taxpayers to pay them I won’t vote for him again.

 

[UNCBAdookJD]

It’s far more likely we’ll be Hungary than it is that we’ll continue to succeed? You do realize Trump has already been the president once, right?

And 2020 was a colossal disaster.

 

[UNCBAdookJD]

Certainly, should they ever puss out and beg taxpayers to pay them I won’t vote for him again.

He already has. He has stiffed cities all over the country for the bills associated with his rallies. Who do you think has been stuck paying for those services?

 

[farce©]

As a tax payer i, along with everybody else who paid off their own student loans, won’t have to subsidize anymore crybabies student loans so that is a great thing. Time to man up and show some responsibility. You borrow it, you pay it just like everyone else did. As well, it takes a pretty low person to want those who didn’t go to college, or couldn’t go for whatever reason to have to pay other’s student loans.

Why? People with no school age children pay taxes for schools. People who don’t go to college pay taxes which support state university systems. The child tax credits are simply everybody subsidizing other peoples’ kids. Renters subsidize homeowners who get mortgage interest deductions. I don’t disagree with these things but we pay taxes for the overall betterment of society. We don’t get to pick and choose at a micro-level what we will pay for and what we won’t.

 

[Duke Mu]

Shared governance in academia will be under attack. Ironically, proponents of "freedom" and the "free market" will violte those tenants with education.

Best to keep the masses ignorant.

Science funding, ironic with Musk involved, will suffer as well.

 

[superrific]

As a tax payer i, along with everybody else who paid off their own student loans, won’t have to subsidize anymore crybabies student loans so that is a great thing. Time to man up and show some responsibility. You borrow it, you pay it just like everyone else did. As well, it takes a pretty low person to want those who didn’t go to college, or couldn’t go for whatever reason to have to pay other’s student loans.

You are not subsidizing anyone at all. Your taxes do not depend on fiscal outlays, especially relatively small ones like this. That fact has been established over and over again.

And people not going to college are not paying for anyone's student loans. They don't pay much tax period.

It takes a much lower person to wish vengeance upon people for whom college didn't work out that well. A lot of people with big student loan bills are people who took out money and couldn't finish school for one reason or another -- whether it was poor performance or personal tragedy. If they started a business and failed, they could wipe out their debts in bankruptcy. Not so with student loans.

I had a student whose brother was a competitive skier and who died in a freak skiing accident. She withdrew from school in April because she was too devastated to take her finals. She did not return. 3 semesters of law school. I had another student who withdrew when her husband came back from Afghanistan with a traumatic brain injury. She was in her 5th semester. She did not return. I had another student who got cancer. She actually stayed in school for three semesters while receiving chemo.

But hey, who gives a shit about those people.

That last student had one of the saddest stories I've ever heard. She was a Roma woman who was raped by Serbian soldiers as a young teen. She got pregnant, and because of her traditional culture, she was shunned by much of her family and abortion would have meant exile. So she resettled in the US. Meanwhile, she developed severe epilepsy and had a rescue dog accompany her everywhere. Then she got cancer. Died about a year after she would have graduated.

And the reason I know a lot about her was that she confided in me because some of the other professors were super-assholish to her. There were professors who were really unhappy about the prospect of having a rescue dog in class. They didn't exactly tell her she couldn't, but she made it uncomfortable enough that she had to change sections multiple times. There were like 5-8 law professors she trusted. It kind of sucked for her, because she hated corporate law, but she took my classes anyway because she knew I would always be an ally.