How will a Trump presidency affect you?

[superrific]

I was responding to the statement “federal spending is already damn lean”.

Seems to contradict the deficit trend. I heard somewhere if we reset all spend to precovid (2019) levels, problem is largely solved.

That's because the people "somewhere" are comparing 2019 dollars to 2025 revenues. The same people who complained loudly about Bidinflation. Also, how the fuck are we supposed to reset SS and Medicare spend? Aging populations require more medical care. Boomers continue to age into social security.

And anyway, what problem do you think you're solving? Waste in government? On what basis are you claiming that the expansion of federal spending after 2019 was all or even primarily wasteful? For instance, we spent like $60B more on emergency relief in 2024 than in 2019. That's not because of waste. It's because climate change has made the storms more powerful, and because states continue to subsidize inefficient building in flood zones. Which I suppose is a form of waste but not what you are talking about.

 

[Ramrouser]

What is it you dislike?
Diversity?
Equity?
Inclusion?

Which of those is bad to you?

Equity is the worst. Implies socialism/communism, particularly since DEI has its roots in CRT which originated from the writings of numerous Marxists scholars in the 1970s. This country's ideals have always been about equality and everyone getting a "fair shot" even though, obviously, we haven't always lived up to it.

Diversity: Racial bean counting. I'm all in favor of diversity of thought and ideas. Liberals idea of diversity is an Ivy League campus, where you have lots and lots of colors BUT everyone thinks the same.

Inclusion: Nothing wrong with making people feel welcome and included.

 

[MOUNTAINH33L]

Equity is the worst. Implies socialism/communism, particularly since DEI has its roots in CRT

 

[superrific]

Equity is the worst. Implies socialism/communism, particularly since DEI has its roots in CRT which originated from the writings of numerous Marxists scholars in the 1970s. This country's ideals have always been about equality and everyone getting a "fair shot" even though, obviously, we haven't always lived up to it.

1. DEI does not have roots in CRT. Seriously dude, what the fuck is wrong with you? DEI was essentially created by Sandra Day O'Connor, so go fuck yourself about "Marxist scholars." And Marxist scholars often have very sharp critiques -- indeed, the WSJ has many times talked glowingly about Marx's critiques of capitalism. In any event, since you don't know anything about what CR theorists actually claim, and you don't know anything about Marxism, what makes you think you can equate them?

2. The country's ideals have always been about equality and everyone getting a "fair shot?" That, of course, is why women were considered property of their husbands for the first hundreds years or so; and why slavery was written into the constitution and was a potent political issue almost from the beginning. It's because equality was the country's ideals that we lived for 60 odd years under a system of de jure segregation and inequality. I mean, GTFOH.

 

[wmheel1287]

This country's ideals have always been about equality

This statement is akin to saying "Tommy has always been about monogamy" when in reality Tommy just fucked the Maid of Honor in the vestibule of the church right before his wedding and plans to fuck her cousin in the bathroom at the reception.

 

[Ramrouser]

Here's what AI has to say about whether DEI has its roots in CRT:

"Yes, there is a strong argument to be made that DEI programs, particularly in higher education, have their roots in Critical Race Theory (CRT). Many DEI initiatives directly apply CRT principles to address systemic racism and promote equity."

"CRT, an academic framework, examines how race and racism have shaped legal systems and policies. DEI programs often use CRT's concepts to understand and address systemic issues, leading to initiatives like anti-racist training and curriculum revisions."

 

[superrific]

This statement is akin to saying "Tommy has always been about monogamy" when in reality Tommy just fucked the Maid of Honor in the vestibule of the church right before his wedding and plans to fuck her cousin in the bathroom at the reception.

I'd take it further and say Tommy fucked the Maid of Honor right after the ceremony, and a few more times after that, and the Maid's sister and now he plans to fuck her whole family.

 

[superrific]

Here's what AI has to say about whether DEI has its roots in CRT:

"Yes, there is a strong argument to be made that DEI programs, particularly in higher education, have their roots in Critical Race Theory (CRT). Many DEI initiatives directly apply CRT principles to address systemic racism and promote equity."

"CRT, an academic framework, examines how race and racism have shaped legal systems and policies. DEI programs often use CRT's concepts to understand and address systemic issues, leading to initiatives like anti-racist training and curriculum revisions."

That's cute. Back to the real world, read this opinion that you skipped in law school because you only read the hornbooks and commercial outlines:

Grutter v. Bollinger, 539 U.S. 306 (2003)

Grutter v. Bollinger: The use of an applicant's race as one factor in an admissions policy of a public educational institution does not violate the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment if the policy is narrowly tailored to the compelling interest of promoting a diverse student...

supreme.justia.com

"Since this Court's splintered decision in Bakke, Justice Powell's [note: Justice Powell was not a Marxist] opinion announcing the judgment of the Court has served as the touchstone for constitutional analysis of race-conscious admissions policies. Public and private universities across the Nation have modeled their own admissions programs on Justice Powell's views on permissible race-conscious policies."
"Before this Court, as they have throughout this litigation, respondents assert only one justification for their use of race in the admissions process: obtaining "the educational benefits that flow from a diverse student body." In other words, the Law School asks us to recognize, in the context of higher education, a compelling state interest in student body diversity.

The Law School's educational judgment that such diversity is essential to its educational mission is one to which we defer. The Law School's assessment that diversity will, in fact, yield educational benefits is substantiated by respondents and their amici. Our scrutiny of the interest asserted by the Law School is no less strict for taking into account complex educational judgments in an area that lies primarily within the expertise of the university. Our holding today is in keeping with our tradition of giving a degree of deference to a university's academic decisions, within constitutionally prescribed limits.

"To be narrowly tailored, a race-conscious admissions program cannot use a quota system-it cannot "insulat[e] each category of applicants with certain desired qualifications from competition with all other applicants." Bakke, 438 U. S., at 315 (opinion of Powell, J.). Instead, a university may consider race or ethnicity only as a " 'plus' in a particular applicant's file," without "insulat[ing] the individual from comparison with all other candidates for the available seats." Id., at 317. In other words, an admissions program must be "flexible enough to consider all pertinent elements of diversity in light of the particular qualifications of each applicant, and to place them on the same footing for consideration, although not necessarily according them the same weight."

This is DEI. This is where it came from. Diversity as a positive benefit, but one that cannot be pursued via formal quotas or formulae. It can be pursued by subjective "plus" factors that do not insulate from comparison but provide context as to the circumstances under which previous academic success was achieved. The opinion goes to great lengths to discuss the benefits from both the D and the I that you hate so much.

So go fuck yourself. It is not a matter of reasonable dispute that Justice O'Connor here was describing what would be known as DEI. Justice O'Connor, of course, like Justice Powell, was not a Marxist. She had no interest in CRT and probably never knew much about it at all. What she did believe was that "We have long recognized that, given the important purpose of public education and the expansive freedoms of speech and thought associated with the university environment, universities occupy a special niche in our constitutional tradition."

Now, maybe you disagree with O'Connor on this point. Fine. But it's an incontrovertible fact that DEI was the result of this specific decision (just as the court acknowledged that the diversity programs of the 90s were a direct result of Powell's opinion in Bakke), not CRT.

 

[wmheel1287]

Here's what AI has to say about whether DEI has its roots in CRT:

"Yes, there is a strong argument to be made that DEI programs, particularly in higher education, have their roots in Critical Race Theory (CRT). Many DEI initiatives directly apply CRT principles to address systemic racism and promote equity."

"CRT, an academic framework, examines how race and racism have shaped legal systems and policies. DEI programs often use CRT's concepts to understand and address systemic issues, leading to initiatives like anti-racist training and curriculum revisions."

nah, bruh. Not even a little....

 

[spcmtn]

Trump makes life worse for the vast majority of every American.

 

[UNCatTech]

Equity is the worst. Implies socialism/communism, particularly since DEI has its roots in CRT which originated from the writings of numerous Marxists scholars in the 1970s. This country's ideals have always been about equality and everyone getting a "fair shot" even though, obviously, we haven't always lived up to it.

Diversity: Racial bean counting. I'm all in favor of diversity of thought and ideas. Liberals idea of diversity is an Ivy League campus, where you have lots and lots of colors BUT everyone thinks the same.

Inclusion: Nothing wrong with making people feel welcome and included.

This really doesn't make sense. You seem to be creating a secondary definition to oppose, while agreeing with the actual meaning.

As you state the the country about getting a fair chance, that's equity, not the fix news socialist boogie man.

Diversity is about culture and ideas. Yet you add a lie to how you define it so you can stay in good have with lord orange turd, I guess.

So it seems like you actually agree with DEI, but have added to the definition in order to maintain the ordered dislike from lord trump.

Wow, and you seem to believe that liberals are only interested in the same thoughts after a post that clearly shows you following the maga thoughts exactly as ordered.

 

[UNCatTech]

Here's what AI has to say about whether DEI has its roots in CRT:

"Yes, there is a strong argument to be made that DEI programs, particularly in higher education, have their roots in Critical Race Theory (CRT). Many DEI initiatives directly apply CRT principles to address systemic racism and promote equity."

"CRT, an academic framework, examines how race and racism have shaped legal systems and policies. DEI programs often use CRT's concepts to understand and address systemic issues, leading to initiatives like anti-racist training and curriculum revisions."

Because AI is trained on the internet. The same internet where the maga cult has been spreading lies about CRT and DEI for years.

 

[wmheel1287]

Because AI is trained on the internet. The same internet where three maga cult has been spreading lies about CRT and DEI for years.

It's not what AI says either. Notice he didn't include his prompt. I guarantee it was something like "can an argument be made that DEI programs are based on CRT?"

Of course AI is going to attempt to bridge the gap when asked in such a manner.

 

[UNCatTech]

Trump makes life worse for the vast majority of every American.

But his family might be the richest family in the world if he completes his presidential agenda.

 

[Ramrouser]

It's not what AI says either. Notice he didn't include his prompt. I guarantee it was something like "can an argument be made that DEI programs are based on CRT?"

Of course AI is going to attempt to bridge the gap when asked in such a manner.

Incorrect. I made a simple and direct prompt of whether DEI has its roots in CRT. Everyone on here uses AI in advancing or refuting arguments.

 

[Healing]

DEI existed before CRT.

 

[farce©]

Everyone on here uses AI in advancing or refuting arguments.

Really?

 

[McAdooSmackinYou]

It's not what AI says either. Notice he didn't include his prompt. I guarantee it was something like "can an argument be made that DEI programs are based on CRT?"

Of course AI is going to attempt to bridge the gap when asked in such a manner.

that's exactly what he did and it perfectly encapsulates our near future that merges absolute morons with terrible and powerful technology

 

[JCTarheel82]

It's not what AI says either. Notice he didn't include his prompt. I guarantee it was something like "can an argument be made that DEI programs are based on CRT?"

Of course AI is going to attempt to bridge the gap when asked in such a manner.

He didn't say which model it was either.

 

[wmheel1287]

Incorrect. I made a simple and direct prompt of whether DEI has its roots in CRT. Everyone on here uses AI in advancing or refuting arguments.

And I showed you what ChatGPT says including my prompt.