How will a Trump presidency affect you?

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Ramrouser said:
DOGE was necessary , in part, because Biden aggressively thrust DEI programs and positions in every sector of government. Drastic and swift action is required to undo that mess. Same with deportations. The mess was created by the prior administration, which required a drastic response.

Those are facts and not straw man arguments against Dems. Also, no other Democrat not named Clinton has ever showed an iota of interest in reducing government bureaucracy or the federal workforce. Government continues to grow and grow even tough our population has leveled off.
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Despite the fact that none of what you posted here is accurate—if that’s the way you “feel”, then at least man the fuck up and say you’re glad I lost my job.

One of the main projects I worked on—funded by CMS—examines racial and gender differences in healthcare provision and outcomes. It’s been going on since the ACA became law. Apparently that’s DEI, according to you, Trump, and DOGE.
 
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Ramrouser said:
DOGE was necessary , in part, because Biden aggressively thrust DEI programs and positions in every sector of government. Drastic and swift action is required to undo that mess. Same with deportations. The mess was created by the prior administration, which required a drastic response.

Those are facts and not straw man arguments against Dems. Also, no other Democrat not named Clinton has ever showed an iota of interest in reducing government bureaucracy or the federal workforce. Government continues to grow and grow even tough our population has leveled off.
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Setting aside your curious use of the term "facts," why does the "mess" require "drastic" action? If it truly is a mess, Trump ought to be able to work with a Republican-controlled Congress to downsize/eliminate agencies that were previously approved by Congress. If you truly believe that the executive can ignore Congress when it comes to the administrative state, it creates an extremely dangerous precedent for when the next Democrat is in office. President Beshear or Whitmer may decide to greatly expand the administrative state to correct the abuses of Trump and simply create whole agencies by executive order. She could say the situation is "drastic" as a way to bypass Congress. Do you really think it is a good idea to give the President that much power over the purse?

Separate from the government checks and balances issue, there is the separate issue of how the cuts are undertaken. So your position is that DEI had so infested the government that there was no time to figure out what people actually did. Just move fast and break things. Why is that a better strategy than actually studying the issue and making the best decisions possible? Obviously, "studying" can be an issue if taken to an extreme. But I'm not saying Trump needed to debate downsizing for four years before making any steps. I am saying that, as a simple prudential matter, 20 year old hackers named Big Ballz may actually benefit from a little analysis before wielding the hatchet.

Would you think it a good idea if your law firm hired a business consultant who decided to fire you in one day without even studying how best your law firm could operate? Wouldn't you think some area expertise would be helpful before just making random business decisions?
 
superrific said:
Clinton and Congress you mean, including GOP congresses.

And there was a long leadup. They held public hearings. People who were on the chopping block had lots of time in advance to prepare. Many roles were phased out after retirement.

None of that is true here, which is why DOGE can only be aptly characterized as both evil and stupid.
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Do you believe government employees are exempt from the sudden firings that the rest of the country is susceptible to?
 
wmheel1287 said:
Do you believe that the rest of the country is susceptible to firings from people who are nowhere at all in their line of supervision, have no insight into what they do, and no care for how they do it?
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Weren't all of the approved firings within the Executive Branch?
 
Calheel said:
1. No.
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Trump fired people that were under the judicial and/or legislative branches?
Calheel said:
2. Approved by whom?
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Elon made suggestions and Trump approved or disapproved, is my understanding.
Calheel said:
3. And even when 1 & 2 is not an issue, do you think the Executive Branch has the power (or should have the power) to eliminate a lawful agency without Congressional approval?
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It would depend on how it was created, right?
 
ZenMode said:
Trump fired people that were under the judicial and/or legislative branches?

Elon made suggestions and Trump approved or disapproved, is my understanding.

It would depend on how it was created, right?
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Yes. Try to keep up. https://www.npr.org/2025/05/19/g-s1-67681/judge-block-trump-takeover-us-institute-of-peace

Also, he made an effort for the GAO: Congressional Agency Rebuffs Trump Bid to Expand Power Grab. And of course, he fired the head of the Library of CONGRESS

So you think Donald Trump reviewed the firing of every single federal employee? Seriously? C'mon.

If Congress has created an agency or specifically directed funds to that agency (Ed Department, CFPB, USAID), then Congress needs to approve the removal of funds from that agency. Otherwise, it is unlawful impoundment.
 
A respected board poster loses their job because an unofficial, unapproved government agency run by an ultra-wealthy loon, and literally staffed by college-age tech bros with no administrative or government experience, went berserk eliminating vital government agencies and departments willy-nilly. And so board Trumpers try to act like they give a shit about this person losing their job and try to hide their support of said firings with irrelevant and inaccurate whataboutisms. They act and talk tough but don't have the actual guts to own what they support and to own what their party's leader has been doing to many people's lives since January.

They try to act as if Clinton's firings were the same as Trump's, when several posters here have already pointed out the vast differences in how the downsizing happened and what was cut. Trump, Elon, and DOGE haven't been cutting fat, they've been cutting the muscle from government. Their cuts were made with little to no thought or planning put into it, vital government workers and agencies were cut and then had to be begged to come back, and the National Weather Service no longer has 24/7 staffing at all of their offices, among many such disasters in waiting.

We have a HHS Secretary who just admitted to a congressional committee that he didn't know that vital research money for ALS has been cut or that cutting tobacco use is one of the top preventable deaths in the country, even though he has slashed spending to cut tobacco use and let go hundreds of employees who work at the FDA's Tobacco center. We have a Homeland Security Director who completely missed a basic question asked by a congressional committee that any Honors High School Civics class student would know. These people love to yell that liberals live in an echo chamber and aren't connected to reality, yet they are the ones completely ignoring the very real world costs of their actions to individuals and to our nation. But they yelp like hit dogs if anyone dares to suggest that they are to blame for what is happening to these people, or to the country. As others have said, man up and own what you're doing - don't hide behind weak whatabouts and diversions.
 
farce© said:
Only if you make below the salary threshold (~$80K I believe) and don’t itemize deductions.
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Yea, it's super basic, I believe it has to be on an EZ form.

I recall reading years ago that the government wanted to change the way we file. They had a really good system where they would send you the information they had already calculated, if you agreed, you signed and returned it. But Intuit spent millions fighting it. One concession for them winning was the free filing. (Which is also mail in only) A few years later they got in trouble because no one could figure out how to file for free, so they had to make it more accessible.

I really hate Intuit and their products.
 
EyeballKid said:
Despite the fact that none of what you posted here is accurate—if that’s the way you “feel”, then at least man the fuck up and say you’re glad I lost my job.

One of the main projects I worked on—funded by CMS—examines racial and gender differences in healthcare provision and outcomes. It’s been going on since the ACA became law. Apparently that’s DEI, according to you, Trump, and DOGE.
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Elon's DOGESHIT program is a complete joke. It's probably costing more money than it's saving because of the things that are not getting done.

Plus, he's impacted a whopping .4% of the budget.

I read an article today that all of the docs around Lake Lanier that are manned by the Army Corps of Engineers are closing due to a lack of staffing.

oh, and tariffs are a tax, if the company "eats" the cost it's just a corporate tax. Why not let the stupid trump tax cuts expire...
 
UNCatTech said:
Yea, it's super basic, I believe it has to be on an EZ form.

I recall reading years ago that the government wanted to change the way we file. They had a really good system where they would send you the information they had already calculated, if you agreed, you signed and returned it. But Intuit spent millions fighting it. One concession for them winning was the free filing. (Which is also mail in only) A few years later they got in trouble because no one could figure out how to file for free, so they had to make it more accessible.

I really hate Intuit and their products.
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I have a very simple tax filing . State Pension , Soc Sec, one bank which handles 100% of my "investment income" which is a little more than my Soc Sec. Thats it
It is madennng I feel like I need to pay Tax Act a couple hundred a year to file.............
 
mpaer said:
I have a very simple tax filing . State Pension , Soc Sec, one bank which handles 100% of my "investment income" which is a little more than my Soc Sec. That's it
It is maddening I feel like I need to pay Tax Act a couple hundred a year to file.............
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Especially when the IRS already has all of the information they need for your filing.
 
Doge would have had more credibility had it not been led by a near trillionaire who gave $250m to Trump's campaign and who used it to eliminate every single regulatory hurdle his agencies faced while fleecing his way to tens of billions of dollars of new taxpayer-funded projects. But hey, at least we got rid of cancer research so a South African Canadian psychopath can get richer!
 
mpaer said:
I have a very simple tax filing . State Pension , Soc Sec, one bank which handles 100% of my "investment income" which is a little more than my Soc Sec. Thats it
It is madennng I feel like I need to pay Tax Act a couple hundred a year to file.............
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Can you file on paper by regular physical mail?
 
EyeballKid said:
Well—it happened. Just received notice that I’ve been laid off, effective at the end of the month.

Most of my work was based on contracts with CDC, CMS, and NIH. That work has dried up significantly over the past few months, thanks to Trump. And so…here we are.

Fuck me.
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Fucking sucks, eyeball!
 
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