Hubert Davis Catch-all

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PTOHeel said:
I know nothing about Mingo, other than his high recruit ranking. With all of the downside and low expectations people are posting about, what are the positives that led to him being such a highly ranked recruit?
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To also quote the IC report: “Mingo knows how to score.”
 
PTOHeel said:
I know nothing about Mingo, other than his high recruit ranking. With all of the downside and low expectations people are posting about, what are the positives that led to him being such a highly ranked recruit?
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awesome positional size, strong-bodied 6'4 with a 6'10 wingspan gives him the ability to finish from a lot of angles around the rim and defend 1-3 and sometimes 4 - and he uses it, he's a great finisher around the rim even without being an explosive athlete and is a dynamic defensive player. great vision and creativity as a passer, routinely makes passes with his left that catch defenses off guard and makes all the other passes too (though he's liable to turn it over more than you'd like, gets a little too much dip on his chip at times. Can be freshman Cadeau-esque in that regard). Good midrange jumper that he gets to pretty easily with an advanced handle, pull-up middie and FT mechanics are a lot cleaner than his 3pt shot - think Nassir Little. IMO there are similarities in both the shooting profile and the actual mechanics.
 
superrific said:
Again, not too many teams will do OK without their two best players who also happen to be the only two reliable inside players. I mean, yes the perimeter has holes, and we know that, but the idea that the game should have been close seems like fantasy to me.

I suspect we paid Caleb Wilson a lot of money. Lot more than people think.
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Not 25 points bad for a Top program.

How much for Evans and Luka?
 
akillesheel said:
awesome positional size, strong-bodied 6'4 with a 6'10 wingspan gives him the ability to finish from a lot of angles around the rim and defend 1-3 and sometimes 4 - and he uses it, he's a great finisher around the rim even without being an explosive athlete and is a dynamic defensive player. great vision and creativity as a passer, routinely makes passes with his left that catch defenses off guard and makes all the other passes too (though he's liable to turn it over more than you'd like, gets a little too much dip on his chip at times. Can be freshman Cadeau-esque in that regard). Good midrange jumper that he gets to pretty easily with an advanced handle, pull-up middie and FT mechanics are a lot cleaner than his 3pt shot - think Nassir Little. IMO there are similarities in both the shooting profile and the actual mechanics.
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Thanks! Appreciate the description.
 
Rell has basically stated Mingo will not be a starter (barring a horrible portal haul) and the fan base will need to have patience with him. Lots of potential though so hopefully he can maximize it.
 
kidryancorn said:
Rell has basically stated Mingo will not be a starter (barring a horrible portal haul) and the fan base will need to have patience with him. Lots of potential though so hopefully he can maximize it.
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That puzzles me. He’s the top-rated PG in the class (allegedly; I don’t know that as fact) and a top 10 prospect and he’s not projected to start, in this day and age, on a team that currently doesn't really have a PG?
 
Mingo had a serious injury before this season and only returned to play a few weeks ago. He's not been nearly as good since his return and is working his way back into game shape and is showing serious rust. The potential is certainly there, but right now the performance is not. How well he does in CH next year will come down to how well he continues to recover fully from his injury and how well/quickly he regains his game.
 
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UNC Awaiting Henri Veesaar's Return to Practice and Games

A team spokesman confirmed that UNC's seven-footer is still being held out of practice, more than a week after suffering the injury.
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RALEIGH, N.C. — In the aftermath of Tuesday’s loss to NC State, Hubert Davis offered an update on the status of his starting center Henri Veesaar that managed to provide both reasons for optimism and pessimism.

“His outlook is day to day. Every day he’s getting better,” Davis said. “In regards to the lower extremities, he’s getting better, also with his flu. He’s making huge strides every day, and every day we’ll evaluate and see when he’s available to practice. Then, when he’s able to practice, see when he’s able to play.”

A team spokesman confirmed on Wednesday that the seven-footer is, in fact, being held out of practice.

Davis’ comments were notable, considering his remarks earlier in the week suggested Veesaar was nearing a return rather than still being held out of practice.

“He’s getting a lot better, today was a huge jump in his improvement,” Davis said on his weekly radio show Monday night. “He had an injury in his lower extremities, and then also had the flu, and it was a major jump in both of those today. It’s still day-to-day, we’ll have to evaluate (Tuesday) if he’s available for NC State, but I was really encouraged by the improvement in both areas today.”

Whatever strides Veesaar made weren’t enough for the Tar Heels’ second-leading scorer to return to practice, nor suit up for Tuesday’s contest with NC State.

Veesaar was listed as questionable on UNC’s initial availability report Monday night before being ruled out two hours prior to tipoff Tuesday, in accordance with ACC policy.

It marked his second consecutive absence after being a late scratch Saturday against Pitt.

On Saturday, Veesaar was in uniform and participated in the opening segment of warmups before ultimately being ruled out. Illness was said to be the primary concern that afternoon, while a team spokesman confirmed Tuesday’s absence was solely due to the lower-body injury.

Veesaar was in street clothes Tuesday, making any visual evaluation impossible. Against Pitt, however, the only visible treatment was a strip of kinesiology tape running the length of his left Achilles.

The lower-extremity issue traces back to an injury Veesaar suffered in UNC’s Feb. 10 loss to Miami in Coral Gables. He briefly exited during the first half with trainer Doug Halverson but returned less than three minutes later and did not make another trip to the locker room. Sources indicated to Inside Carolina that Veesaar received further evaluation following the defeat.

Across Veesaar’s two-game absence, Jarin Stevenson and Zayden High have been forced to shoulder the load in the Tar Heel frontcourt. The pair has combined for 60 points and 39 rebounds during that stretch, but Veesaar’s absence has been evident.

The Arizona transfer ranks second on the Tar Heels in scoring (16.4), rebounding (9.0) and 3-point percentage (44.8). Veesaar has recorded 13 double-doubles in 24 appearances this season.

Tuesday night in Raleigh, North Carolina matched its lowest scoring output of the season (58) and was outscored in the paint, 40-28.

The next update on Veesaar will come Friday, when North Carolina releases its initial availability report ahead of Saturday’s 1 p.m. matchup with Syracuse.
 
SnoopRob said:
Mingo had a serious injury before this season and only returned to play a few weeks ago. He's not been nearly as good since his return and is working his way back into game shape and is showing serious rust. The potential is certainly there, but right now the performance is not. How well he does in CH next year will come down to how well he continues to recover fully from his injury and how well/quickly he regains his game.
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Is this a situation where the other top teams recruiting him backed away?
 
SnoopRob said:
Mingo had a serious injury before this season and only returned to play a few weeks ago. He's not been nearly as good since his return and is working his way back into game shape and is showing serious rust. The potential is certainly there, but right now the performance is not. How well he does in CH next year will come down to how well he continues to recover fully from his injury and how well/quickly he regains his game.
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Man, what is it with us and recruits getting injured in high school? Seems like that happens so much to us. I remember it was a problem for Harry Giles at dook, but damn.
 
1moretimeagain said:
Is this a situation where the other top teams recruiting him backed away?
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Not due to injury.

For awhile, there was an assumption that he was pretty much a lock to join his brother at Penn State. When folks figured out that wasn't the case, other schools jumped in and he took visits to UConn, Miami, & Alabama in the fall before cutting his list down and excluding them. As he came back from injury, a couple of other teams tried to get in late but he wasn't interested. For whatever reason, he's been pretty set on his final 4 of us, PSU, Baylor, & Washington since the fall and just not interested in considering other schools.
 
superrific said:
Man, what is it with us and recruits getting injured in high school? Seems like that happens so much to us. I remember it was a problem for Harry Giles at dook, but damn.
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I do think we've been taking 5 star scraps quite a bit the last decade, been a while since we've been able to pick and choose who we want. For example, our two 5 stars in this class (Mingo and Adams) were not our primary targets. We turned to them after we whiffed on our initial offers.
 
CRHeel94 said:
Not an anti Hubert...just my two cents.

The hiring/firing decision of HD should be on the merits of the case: I wouldn't bring the political leadership of the UNC system or race into the decision. That he's a beloved alum and the handpicked successor to the Carolina Way has given him some leeway. At the end of the day the expectations to perform at a level expected of a blue blood will drive the decision. While I wouldn't be as harsh as the anti-HD crowd, I'm realistic that HD has not reached that expected level. It's not really a surprise; we put in a first-time HC into a pressure-cooker environment amidst a sea change in college basketball.

From what Ive heard, I still think HD would fall on his sword than get fired.
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Appreciate your logical post to this topic.
 
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