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Burgawnc said:
Of equal concern is the shocking disingenuous response by Salvadorian President Bukele Ortez. He statied he did not have authority to free Mr Garcia from s Salvidorian government prison.
This is a lie to please Donald Trump.
Equally as shocking is Trumps statement suggesting using CECOT to imprison more American citizens in his new Gulag. .
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Keep defending the ms13 guy, not a winning argument for next election.
 
Silence Dogood said:
It doesn't work like that because you can phrase a question to sound good. Do you favor affordable housing for everyone? Yes. In actuality, everyone's taxes are raised, the house will have low standards, people who choose not too work will have same house as someone who does work, etc. Great sounding blind question but won't work.
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what are you babbling about? there are no questions to be "phrased to sound good."

respondents are presented with the candidates literal policy positions, not questions. YouGov, Harris/Nielsen, etc. etc. are reliable, unbiased research and analytics and polling sources.

look at the YouGov poll. it goes over a vast array of policy positions and the formatting is extremely simple so even you can understand it.

they ask voters what they prefer and multiple polls show that the majority prefer harris/democratic policy on a wide range of issues.
 
nycfan said:
Could you guys move the debate on the 2024 election and general political matters to a different thread so this one stays somewhat focused on the topic?
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my apologies. i won't respond to Silence Dipshit's off topic drivel any more.
 
4thgenheel said:
what are you babbling about? there are no questions to be "phrased to sound good."

respondents are presented with the candidates literal policy positions, not questions. YouGov, Harris/Nielsen, etc. etc. are reliable, unbiased research and analytics and polling sources.

look at the YouGov poll. it goes over a vast array of policy positions and the formatting is extremely simple so even you can understand it.

they ask voters what they prefer and multiple polls show that the majority prefer harris/democratic policy on a wide range of issues.
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Would really appreciate you guys taking this discussion to a new thread dedicated to the argument.
 
4thgenheel said:
my apologies. i won't respond to Silence Dipshit's off topic drivel any more.
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I am not trying to stop people debating, just asking that off-topic debates move to a new thread rather than derail one on a different original topic.
 
Something important that’s going unnoticed.

The president of El Salvador, Nayib Bukele, who Trump is working hand in hand with to deport well, pretty much anyone he wants, won reelection last year…. Even though he’d reached his term limit and it was against the El Salvadoran constitution. They made a special allowance for him.

Just food for thought.
 
dukeman92 said:
Something important that’s going unnoticed.

The president of El Salvador, Nayib Bukele, who Trump is working in hand with to deport well, pretty much anyone he wants, won reelection last year…. Even though he’d reached his term limit and it was against the El Salvadoran constitution. They made a special allowance for him.

Just food for thought.
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birds of a feather.
 
Silence Dogood said:
news.gallup.com

Economy Most Important Issue to 2024 Presidential Vote

U.S. voters rate the economy as the most important issue to their presidential vote, with democracy, potential Supreme Court picks and terrorism/national security also ranking highly.
news.gallup.com news.gallup.com

Voters favor Trump on economy, immigration, and foreign affairs. Trump is favored on issues that matter the most.
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Obviously, that was terrible judgement from people who expected improvement with any of those issues.
 
dcphx said:
Aka Democrats and protesters exercising their first amendment rights.
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Yep. And when that happens Silence will continue to defend Dear Leader. "Well, those protestors had it coming! It doesn't matter what the polls or Bill of Rights say, Trump won the election and that proves that most people favor locking up Democrats and anyone who protests our glorious leader's policies and actions! MAGA, baby - suck it you libs while you cry in prison!"
 
Silence Dogood said:
A judge said he was
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Nope. An immigration judge (not the same thing as an actual judge) said that the government had produced enough evidence to satisfy the immigration standards, which is not remotely the same as saying that the preponderance of evidence showed that he was. The immigration standards are extremely deferential, and the judge works for the justice department, so it is a finding about nothing at all.
 
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