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[UNCBAdookJD]

What would the evidence look like?

Anything other than the bare assertion of DHS.

 

[1moretimeagain]

 

[Bobfripp]

“I feel like something is happening generally in America. Something bad is happening. I don’t think everybody understands.”

Being from Russia, she's probably seen this situation before.

 

[Mulberry Heel]

But Silence thinks this is all fine and perfectly acceptable. Gotta keep them wicked and inferior foreigners out of here!

 

[Zoo_View]

I don’t understand how the legal system treats certain words.

Maybe “facilitate” means “get this done by X time and Y date.”

I don’t know why judges are not putting things into simple language.

For instance, “You must bring Mr. Abrego Garcia into this courtroom by 4:00 pm, Wednesday, April 16th, 2025.”

“This Court is not talking about “facilitating or effectuating” his appearance. This Court is saying you have him here by Wednesday, April 16th, 2025 at 4:00 pm or you (Person(s) explicitly named) will be found in contempt and jailed until Mr. Abrego Garcia is in this courtroom.”

Granted, I don’t know what the legal definition or use of certain words is. I do know that “facilitate” or “effectuate” are vague, pansy-ass words to most people.

 

[Duke Mu]

In which states are you licensed?

License to what? It can't be teaching English or Logic. Dog catcher?

 

[EyeballKid]

License to what? It can't be teaching English or Logic. Dog catcher?

Lower limit of Uber/Lyft driver.

Upper limit of licensed Trump Bible salesperson.

 

[tarheelbillie]

“I feel like something is happening generally in America. Something bad is happening. I don’t think everybody understands.”

Being from Russia, she's probably seen this situation before.

My exact sentiments and I have been here for a very long time. What really hurts is that “I don’t think everybody understands” or even cares.

 

[bridgetender]

Not when inflation was high and illegals were committing crimes

If you didn't rely on slanted media for your "news", you would have known that America was far ahead of the rest of the world in containing inflation, by every credible metric.

Similarly, crime was reduced by the Biden administration.

One painfully funny part of the last 10ish years is that TDS means the opposite of what those who say it intend it to mean.

 

[aGDevil2k]

“I feel like something is happening generally in America. Something bad is happening. I don’t think everybody understands.”

Being from Russia, she's probably seen this situation before.

Something bad indeed. And the problem is, because Congress is complicit, there is nothing that can be done. The Project 2025 folks knew the judiciary is powerless...All they needed was the right person to get into the White House and America was hijacked. And without a Congress, nothing can be done to stop it. This country was founded like it should be run by moral people or something, without any safeguards for what is going on

 

[dukeman92]

A judge said he was

A judge said Trump was liable for sexual assault and guilty of 34 felonies.

 

[4thgenheel]

A judge said Trump was liable for sexual assault and guilty of 34 felonies.

no no no, not THAT judge. he doesn't count.

 

[StrangePackage]

A judge said Trump was liable for sexual assault and guilty of 34 felonies.

Not true.

A jury said those things. Two different juries, actually.

 

[rodoheel]

What would the evidence look like?

Documents, photos, videos, sworn testimony. The same evidence that you have in every other court proceeding. Do you seriously think the Trump admin should just be able to come into court and say whoever it wants is "MS-13" and not be expected to identify the basis for that assertion?

If you don't even know what "evidence" means my suggestion would be to leave the discussion of legal issues to people with law degrees.

 

[rodoheel]

I don’t understand how the legal system treats certain words.

Maybe “facilitate” means “get this done by X time and Y date.”

I don’t know why judges are not putting things into simple language.

For instance, “You must bring Mr. Abrego Garcia into this courtroom by 4:00 pm, Wednesday, April 16th, 2025.”

“This Court is not talking about “facilitating or effectuating” his appearance. This Court is saying you have him here by Wednesday, April 16th, 2025 at 4:00 pm or you (Person(s) explicitly named) will be found in contempt and jailed until Mr. Abrego Garcia is in this courtroom.”

Granted, I don’t know what the legal definition or use of certain words is. I do know that “facilitate” or “effectuate” are vague, pansy-ass words to most people.

I don't disagree with you overall about the use of "legalese" but the Supreme Court basically said the district court couldn't order the administration to do the things you want it to order. I think the original reason the court used "facilitate" and "effectuate" was to try to avoid a finding that it overstepped its authority.

 

[dukeman92]

Not true.

A jury said those things. Two different juries, actually.

I was just making a point for the simpleton. It's funny to watch them cower behind the favorable ruling of one court while completely ignoring another.

 

[Zoo_View]

A judge said Trump was liable for sexual assault and guilty of 34 felonies.

Didn’t separate JURIES find Trump liable for sexual abuse and defamation in one case and guilty of 34 felonies in another case? And, a separate jury found Trump liable again for defamation as he continued to lie about Jean Carroll and awarded her $80+ million.

JURIES, not a judge.

 

[dukeman92]

Didn’t separate JURIES find Trump liable for sexual abuse and defamation in one case and guilty of 34 felonies in another case? And, a separate jury found Trump liable again for defamation as he continued to lie about Jean Carroll and awarded her $80+ million.

JURIES, not a judge.

Tell me you didn't read the thread without telling me.

 

[nycfan]

 

[nycfan]

“… XINIS says ..."If the government were "facilitating" his return, there would be no "smuggling," she notes.”