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ZenMode said:
Not at all.

Nope.

The claim was that we are creating concentration camps based on certain characteristics.
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I understand that you are dimwitted and stubborn, but try to follow along here:

We are literally pulling people off the streets with no due process and taking them to detention centers to await sentencing and deportation. There have been countless examples of these abductions not being precise, surgical strikes against criminal illegals, but broad, sweeping roundups based on the color of skin. You don't see white people getting abducted, do you?

Sot it is CLEARLY happening because of certain characteristics, skin tone being chief among them.
 
WaynetheDrain said:
I understand that you are dimwitted and stubborn, but try to follow along here:

We are literally pulling people off the streets with no due process and taking them to detention centers to await sentencing and deportation. There have been countless examples of these abductions not being precise, surgical strikes against criminal illegals, but broad, sweeping roundups based on the color of skin. You don't see white people getting abducted, do you?

Sot it is CLEARLY happening because of certain characteristics, skin tone being chief among them.
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The claim that it's happening because of skin tone is your opinion and nothing more. There have been white people picked up also. Yes, most of the people here illegally have come from Mexico, Central and South America and are brown skinned. Because of their proximity to the US, they have the easiest path to sneak/get into the US and be here illegally.

Not many people are looking to escape Denmark or Canada. :rolleyes:

Good try, though.

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ZenMode said:
The claim that it's happening because of skin tone is your opinion and nothing more. There have been white people picked up also. Yes, most of the people here illegally have come from Mexico, Central and South America and are brown skinned. Because of their proximity to the US, they have the easiest path to sneak/get into the US and be here illegally.

Good try, though.

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“… “People need to understand, ICE [Immigration and Customs Enforcement] officers and Border Patrol don’t need probable cause to walk up to somebody, briefly detain them, and question them,” he [President Trump’s border czar Tom Homan] said on “Fox & Friends.”

“They just go through the observations, get articulable facts, based on their location, their occupation, their physical appearance, their actions.” …”

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Homan claims ICE officers ‘don’t need probable cause’ to ‘briefly detain’ people

President Trump’s border czar Tom Homan asserted Friday morning on Fox News that federal immigration agents do not need probable cause to detain people for a short period of time. “People nee…
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nycfan said:
“… “People need to understand, ICE [Immigration and Customs Enforcement] officers and Border Patrol don’t need probable cause to walk up to somebody, briefly detain them, and question them,” he [President Trump’s border czar Tom Homan] said on “Fox & Friends.”

“They just go through the observations, get articulable facts, based on their location, their occupation, their physical appearance, their actions.” …”

thehill.com

Homan claims ICE officers ‘don’t need probable cause’ to ‘briefly detain’ people

President Trump’s border czar Tom Homan asserted Friday morning on Fox News that federal immigration agents do not need probable cause to detain people for a short period of time. “People nee…
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nycfan said:
“… “People need to understand, ICE [Immigration and Customs Enforcement] officers and Border Patrol don’t need probable cause to walk up to somebody, briefly detain them, and question them,” he [President Trump’s border czar Tom Homan] said on “Fox & Friends.”

“They just go through the observations, get articulable facts, based on their location, their occupation, their physical appearance, their actions.” …”

thehill.com

Homan claims ICE officers ‘don’t need probable cause’ to ‘briefly detain’ people

President Trump’s border czar Tom Homan asserted Friday morning on Fox News that federal immigration agents do not need probable cause to detain people for a short period of time. “People nee…
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"It’s not probable cause. It’s reasonable suspicion,” he said, citing the standard used for stop-and-frisk cases."

I don't know if this is true. I don't know what requirements ICE has for stopping someone, but we should expect more people with brown skin than "white" skin to be deported.
 
WaynetheDrain said:
I understand that you are dimwitted and stubborn, but try to follow along here:

We are literally pulling people off the streets with no due process and taking them to detention centers to await sentencing and deportation. There have been countless examples of these abductions not being precise, surgical strikes against criminal illegals, but broad, sweeping roundups based on the color of skin. You don't see white people getting abducted, do you?

Sot it is CLEARLY happening because of certain characteristics, skin tone being chief among them.
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You are so full of shit and sooooo brainwashed. That isn't a fact. That's your opinion based off of the narrow, politically biased media you ingest like a junkie.
Like a fucking parrot you spout whatever the View tells you. ICE categorically denies that they are "targeting brown people":

"A Department of Homeland Security official has denied these claims, calling them "disgusting and categorically FALSE" and stating that enforcement operations are highly targeted with officers conducting due diligence before arrests.

So any intelligent person would look at the conflicting information and dig deeper to find the real truth. Not sheep like you, Dolly. You don't even realize there might be more than the side you are being fed. There in fact might be some who get caught up in the sweeps that shouldn't. Bound to happen when you are dealing with millions of illegals (thanks brandon and kamala). But I don't believe that is the intent nor do I believe the numbers are outside of the statistical probability. Your voted for politicians created this situation. Fortunately, a majority of voters said no more and voted to clean the mess up.
 
Callatoroy said:
You are so full of shit and sooooo brainwashed. That isn't a fact. That's your opinion based off of the narrow, politically biased media you ingest like a junkie.
Like a fucking parrot you spout whatever the View tells you. ICE categorically denies that they are "targeting brown people":

"A Department of Homeland Security official has denied these claims, calling them "disgusting and categorically FALSE" and stating that enforcement operations are highly targeted with officers conducting due diligence before arrests.

So any intelligent person would look at the conflicting information and dig deeper to find the real truth. Not sheep like you, Dolly. You don't even realize there might be more than the side you are being fed. There in fact might be some who get caught up in the sweeps that shouldn't. Bound to happen when you are dealing with millions of illegals (thanks brandon and kamala). But I don't believe that is the intent nor do I believe the numbers are outside of the statistical probability. Your voted for politicians created this situation. Fortunately, a majority of voters said no more and voted to clean the mess up.
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Ok, so what have you done to "dig deeper to find the real truth"?
 
Why do dimocrats hate children? Unaccompanied children working at a weed farm that employed a child molester (thanks brandon and kamala). The owner of the farm was a large political donor to newsome which is why newsome is livid.

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ICE’s California Weed-Farm Raid Shows Why We Need Mandatory E-Verify | National Review

The Trump administration should target illegal labor, especially in agriculture, with gusto.
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www.themainewire.com

Immigration Raid at California Weed Farm Finds 10 Illegal-Alien Children Working There, As Anti-Ice Protester Appears to Fire a Gun at Officers

The FBI is offering a $50,000 reward for information on a man who appeared to shoot at immigration authorities during a massive Thursday raid at California marijuana farms that allegedly used child labor from illegal immigrant unaccompanied minors. [RELATED: Anti-ICE Activists Charged in Alleged...
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lawtig02 said:
Ok, so what have you done to "dig deeper to find the real truth"?
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To start with I don't go through life thinking my side is always right and that they aren't capable of "whatever it takes". I don't live on a politicaI board every day that is nothing more than an echo chamber to 98% of the posters. And I guarantee I read far more liberal sources than most on here read conservative sources. The truth always lies in the middle of what you are being told and not being told.
 
Callatoroy said:
To start with I don't go through life thinking my side is always right and that they aren't capable of "whatever it takes". I don't live on a politicaI board every day that is nothing more than an echo chamber to 98% of the posters. And I guarantee I read far more liberal sources than most on here read conservative sources. The truth always lies in the middle of what you are being told and not being told.
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So you reside with the rest of the board on earth 1 ?
 
Callatoroy said:
Read this: Child predator among more than 300 nabbed in cannabis farm ICE raid, largest of Trump's second term

And this: Over 300 arrested in immigration raids at cannabis farms near Camarillo and Carpinteria, DHS says

What was left out of one but not the other?
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Good point. I didn't see anything about this guy in the Fox News article.

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Torres' husband, George Retes, is an Army veteran and U.S. citizen, and works as a security guard at Glass House Farms in the Camarillo area.

Retes' vehicle remains outside Glass House Farms, and his wife says she's called every law enforcement agency in the area, but nobody knows where her husband was taken.

"He really did try to leave, so I don't know what's going to happen from here. I really hope I get a phone call or something, because I'm getting torn apart. My kids are asking where their dad is. I keep having to lie, saying he's at work," Torres said.

Retes' daughter turns 3 years old on Saturday.

"He has a bad back, and he's disabled, and it clearly says it in the back of his car that he's a disabled veteran. This is how you're going to treat U.S. citizens?" said Destinee Magana, Retes' sister.
 
Thank the lord Trump is shutting down mom and pop restaurants. I mean do we really need locally owned restaurants when we have Chipotle ?

www.rawstory.com

Omaha restaurants close as DHS sparks panic for workers

Two Omaha restaurant locations have closed after their owner reported receiving a subpoena from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) seeking the immigration status of its employees.In a Facebook post on Sunday, Fernando's Omaha said it was cooperating with the DHS inquiry. However, the...
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Callatoroy said:
To start with I don't go through life thinking my side is always right and that they aren't capable of "whatever it takes". I don't live on a politicaI board every day that is nothing more than an echo chamber to 98% of the posters. And I guarantee I read far more liberal sources than most on here read conservative sources. The truth always lies in the middle of what you are being told and not being told.
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You, two hours ago: "But I don't believe that is the intent nor do I believe the numbers are outside of the statistical probability."

So what "conservative" sources have you seen that detail the alleged "due diligence" ICE is conducting before doing these raids? What do your "conservative" sources say about the unconstitutional treatment than many Latino US citizens have experienced, or the inhumane treatment tens of thousands of incarcerated Latinos are experiencing? What is the "statistical probability" you referenced, and what's the basis for your belief that the incarceration and deportation of US citizens we've seen over the past three months is consistent with what has happened in the 250 years this republic has existed?

I say this with the respect afforded to someone who I'm confident is more intelligent than the other MAGAs who post here. Why did you leave your brains at the door when Trump took over the GOP? How can you not see that everything he is doing would be grounds for a violent insurrection by your (heavily armed) team if the roles were reversed? How can you possibly be okay with Trump creating a militarized department, reportable only to him, with a budget larger than all but three national militaries? What happened that caused you to support an unabashed authoritarian fascist over the republican dream articulated in our constitution?
 
lawtig02 said:
I say this with the respect afforded to someone who I'm confident is more intelligent than the other MAGAs who post here. Why did you leave your brains at the door when Trump took over the GOP?
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What is the basis for that belief? I think he's among the stupider posters on the board. ZenMode is way smarter than him.
 
superrific said:
What is the basis for that belief? I think he's among the stupider posters on the board. ZenMode is way smarter than him.
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That's probably true. I don't think Zen is a true MAGA, though. He's just a troll with no moral integrity. I agree the field that makes up our MAGA posters is barren, but calla is one of the few struggling yellow weeds in that brown desolation.
 
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