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korgguy1971 said:
Agreed.

While we're on the subject of that guy, Stephen Miller is absolutely the kind of dude who is "secretly" into black or Latina women.

Anyone who hates immigrants that much is in the throes of some serious denial and repression. We've seen numerous examples of this in the Evangelical community throughout the years (Ted Haggard, Gary Aldridge, to name a few), and we recently saw it with Mark Robinson. And I haven't even started naming all the political or congressional figures who fall into this category.

He's probably smart enough to not have an alternate online persona, but long-repressed desires have a way of overriding logic and reason.
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This may be true, but I would make an even larger bet that Miller has at some point tortured/killed small animals. I wish I was kidding but im not. Im 95% certain that guy has put a litter of puppies in a pillowcase and thrown it into a pond.
 
wmheel1287 said:
This may be true, but I would make an even larger bet that Miller has at some point tortured/killed small animals. I wish I was kidding but im not. Im 95% certain that guy has put a litter of puppies in a pillowcase and thrown it into a pond.
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It’s also possible that Miller has stalked and killed several-to-a-shitload of gay men.

The guy is nasty and evil.
 
superrific said:
Nah I think he's just a general purpose psychopath who would be a serial killer if he hadn't found a job with Trump.
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wmheel1287 said:
This may be true, but I would make an even larger bet that Miller has at some point tortured/killed small animals. I wish I was kidding but im not. I'm 95% certain that guy has put a litter of puppies in a pillowcase and thrown it into a pond.
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Why Dont We Have Both GIF

What y'all suggest is completely plausible. I'm thinking it's not an "either/or" situation, but an "and/also" situation. Miller is a creepy fuck, filled with vitriol and hatred, and unabashedly so.

(First time I ever used multi-quote; pretty cool feature)
 

ICE memo outlines plan to deport migrants to countries where they are not citizens​

The dramatic shift in policy could result in thousands of people being sent to places where they lack family ties or even a common language.

“…
Todd M. Lyons, the acting director of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, wrote in a memo to the ICE workforce Wednesday that a Supreme Court ruling last month had cleared the way for officers to “immediately” start sending immigrants to “alternative” countries.

People being sent to countries where officials have not provided any “diplomatic assurances” that immigrants will be safe will be informed 24 hours in advance — and in “exigent” circumstances, just six. Those being flown to places that have offered those assurances could be deported with no advance notice….”
 
nycfan said:

ICE memo outlines plan to deport migrants to countries where they are not citizens​

The dramatic shift in policy could result in thousands of people being sent to places where they lack family ties or even a common language.

“…
Todd M. Lyons, the acting director of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, wrote in a memo to the ICE workforce Wednesday that a Supreme Court ruling last month had cleared the way for officers to “immediately” start sending immigrants to “alternative” countries.

People being sent to countries where officials have not provided any “diplomatic assurances” that immigrants will be safe will be informed 24 hours in advance — and in “exigent” circumstances, just six. Those being flown to places that have offered those assurances could be deported with no advance notice….”
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I think they realize that even with the vastly increased ICE budget they can't get rid every immigrant, so the idea is to do cruel and inhumane things to immigrants (and there are reports of immigrants being beaten in these ICE centers) to "spread the word" that immigrants - including legal ones - need to get the hell out of the USA. They're trying to bully and frighten and terrify immigrants into leaving the country. Because then it will go back to being the heavily-white, conformist, diversity-less utopia that it was previously (and yes, I'm being sarcastic).

In the 1940s the great journalist John Gunther traveled to all 48 states and wrote a bestselling book, Inside USA, about his travels and experiences. It's a fabulous book, but one thing he often pointed out was that the cities and states that had the heaviest restrictions on drinking alcoholic beverages also usually had the worst statistics for alcoholism and public drunkenness, and that the states which bragged about having the highest percentage of native-born whites (like Arkansas or South Carolina) often had the worst statistics for poverty, high school graduation, lack of culture, etc. Having an overwhelming percentage of native-born whites in your population and little racial or ethnic diversity (or at least any that is tolerated or promoted) does not equal living in a Utopia, no matter what Trumpers might believe otherwise
 
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The uproar over Alligator Alcatraz is confusing.

Unless I'm missing something, the ONLY way the surroundings of a jail/prison matter, regardless of the crime you committed, is if you try to escape, right?
 
Mulberry Heel said:
I think they realize that even with the vastly increased ICE budget they can't get rid every immigrant, so the idea is to do cruel and inhumane things to immigrants (and there are reports of immigrants being beaten in these ICE centers) to "spread the word" that immigrants - including legal ones - need to get the hell out of the USA. They're trying to bully and frighten and terrify immigrants into leaving the country. Because then it will go back to being the heavily-white, conformist, diversity-less utopia that it was previously (and yes, I'm being sarcastic).

In the 1940s the great journalist John Gunther traveled to all 48 states and wrote a bestselling book, Inside USA, about his travels and experiences. It's a fabulous book, but one thing he often pointed out was that the cities and states that had the heaviest restrictions on drinking alcoholic beverages also usually had the worst statistics for alcoholism and public drunkenness, and that the states which bragged about having the highest percentage of native-born whites (like Arkansas or South Carolina) often had the worst statistics for poverty, high school graduation, lack of culture, etc. Having an overwhelming percentage of native-born whites in your population and little racial or ethnic diversity (or at least any that is tolerated or promoted) does not equal living in a Utopia, no matter what Trumpers might believe otherwise
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Once again, for all the people saying we’re being hysterical for pointing out the Nazi comparisons, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE NAZIS DID!!!!
 
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ZenMode said:
The uproar over Alligator Alcatraz is confusing.

Unless I'm missing something, the ONLY way the surroundings of a jail/prison matter, regardless of the crime you committed, is if you try to escape, right?
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Wait, you think the uproar is because of where it’s located? The only people who care about that are the people who love it.

Seriously, where do you get the information from which you try to make sense of the world?
 
1moretimeagain said:
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This is a detailed history of the evolution of Stephen Miller that is lengthy but informative and morbidly entertaining. If you have some minutes, it's worth the read.

www.vanityfair.com

Keeping Up With the Millers: Stephen Miller and His Wife, Katie, Found Love in a Hateful Place

Trump’s favorite young power couple—after Jared and Ivanka and Don Jr. and Kimberly, that is—have carved out a special place in the administration for their rhetoric and ideology.
www.vanityfair.com www.vanityfair.com
 
lawtig02 said:
Wait, you think the uproar is because of where it’s located? The only people who care about that are the people who love it.

Seriously, where do you get the information from which you try to make sense of the world?
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Where it's located isn't really relevant, either. Is anyone less concerned about a jail surrounded by armed guards who will shoot and kill your ass if you try to escape?
 
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